Interesting. What is better about the GT3 gearbox?

 

What you are experiencing could be the factory shifter rather than the transmission. The only difference in the manual transmissions is the gear ratios of a 7 speed v. 6 speed and one less gear, of course. The transmission itself is mechanical-it is either in gear or not. But, the GT 3 also gets an upgraded, short throw, better shifter mechanism. While I thought the factory 992S shifter was very good, it is made of plastic and cast metal so it had a lot of slop. I installed the Numeric shifter which is one of the best upgrades available for a MT Porsche. Rifle bolt precision on every shift.

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My opinion on this debate is that if you only have 1 911/ sports car, then get it in PDK. If you have 2+ sports cars get at least one in manual and the others in pdk.

The manual is way more fun, cool and engaging. However the manual is very annoying to drive on a daily basis especially when doing low speed maneuvers, talking on the phone, long road trips, steep hills etc. The manual also takes a bit of maturity because any remotely fast automatic car will smoke any manual 911 off the line and even in a rolling race you will lose to many “lower end” cars. It can be a bit of an ego deflater because other people will just think your car is slow because they can’t tell that you’re in a manual and not a pdk.

the pdk for me is what makes the 911 a legitimate daily driver with zero compromise. It also gives you the best launch control in the world to show your friends. Long road trips and parking lot maneuvers will be just as easy as any other car. In Rolling races you will beat 99% of cars on the road. This isn’t just because the pdk shifts faster, but also because the pdk gets shorter gearing than the manual, which means the pdk will be using more of its peak power band throughout every gear.

I personally went with the pdk because as of now I only have one sports car, and I need my 911 to be a legitimate daily driver. However, when I get another 911, I will definitely get it in a manual, preferably the gt3, but even a base carrera manual would be nice to have as a canyon carver and track toy

 

Geez I hope you do not use your PDK to win street races. Even an "immature" person with a manual knows that street racing is dangerous as it takes at least an idiot to street race.

 

Please tell me in 2022 that this annoyance of talking on the phone with a manual is not because you are actually holding the phone while you drive rather than using some form of hands-free - bluetooth, carplay, android auto, earbud...

 

If that's important to you, sure. But as you say with a little maturity that issue goes away.....

 

I am a very experienced track driver with many hours under my belt and I have pushed many different cars to their limits and I have a lot of experience with how to handle cars when they slide. When I race on the street, I always make sure to not be around other traffic or pedestrians. But when there is an open road, to me it’s the autobahn. These cars are made to go at speed, so with a competent driver you are at .00001% risk. The biggest risk on the road are other drivers and traffic, not a 911 doing launch control (which doesn’t even spin the wheels much anyways ). Don’t be afraid to have some fun man!

 

Get the one that's more fun to drive for you. Remember that there is always a faster car out there. Cars are so fast that its not even becoming a priority anymore, especially with the EV revolution coming. A tenth here or there, not relevant IMO.
https://www.autoblog.com/2022/08/24/...doesnt-matter/

 

Well, I question your statistics and risk analysis. If you are involved in a street race ( “When I race on the street….”) you are ALWAYS in close proximity to at least one other car and immature driver with poor judgment, by definition. It takes two to make it a race, does it not? In my state, police always take street racers to county jail to be booked and ROR’d with their cars always towed to police impound lot to set an example. You then risk loss of drivers license for reckless driving and concomitant insurance issues. That is not the type of fun I am looking for …..but that’s just me, I guess. So when the 18 year-old boy racers in their mustangs, civics and camaros pull up next to me at a light, I smile, wave and watch them speed away drawing all the law enforcement attention with them. If I can afford a 992S, I can afford a track day at Sebring whenever I get the itch.

 

 

Presumably they won’t catch him, with his PDK being two tenths quicker….

 

Where the EVs fall apart is the autobahn. I travel to Germany from time to time. Used to rent whatever was easier until I realized that most small cars top out at about 100 mph. Several times I’ve found myself trying to overtake the car in the middle lane only to realize I am neck and neck with the other car and cannot pass it. All the while faster cars are flashing me from behind. I’ve made a point ever since to pay attention and rent faster cars. The EVs including the Teslas cannot cut it on the autobahn from what people tell me in Germany.They start overheating within a few minutes of driving at high speed and the computer starts restricting performance. Also consumption goes through the roof. Like the range goes down fivefold or more. While the consumption goes up for a gas car too, at least you can pull over and refuel in reasonable time.

 

PDK vs Manual becomes a mute point on the autobahn. With the launch control advantage taken out of consideration, Porsche top speeds are the same.

 

My thoughts exactly. I had a manual 991.1 and loved it but the shifting was annoying for in-town commuter traffic plus I've almost always got water, coffee, etc. which is much easier with a PDK. Next 911 is a PDK.

 

I've driven our Tesla for hours at 90 - 100 mph without any issues like you describe above. That substantially exceeds prevailing traffic speed even on derestricted sections of the Autobahn. Yes, range suffers. Five-fold is way overstating it, at least up to 100mph or so. I get about half potential range at that speed.