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Old Oct 7, 2020 | 08:22 PM
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So now that I've "sold" (Sunday) the RS5, it's time to start working on the 992 C4S build. As I've not got a dealer near I'm relying on the Porsche build site which at times is perplexing. So I'd be grateful for some guidance.

1) I didn't see PTS so I selected Special Color but it just gives some 5 colors or so for $11k and change. I would like to have it in Gulf Racing livery. Can you only do that once you contact a dealer?

2) I want to select the Aerokit but when I select that it asks me for color choice. When I select a color it changes the entire vehicle to that color. Wassup with that?

3) Is there no way to get the manual transmission without the lowering PASM or PASM+. The car is low enough as it is and since I don't work for DOT I don't really want to grade my road...

The tentative build is PMCV61S6.

Those were the top ones so far.

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Old Oct 7, 2020 | 09:28 PM
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A1.) Yup, you need to work with a Dealership on the selection of the exact color you want. There's a very long list of the colors that have already been "approved' and I'd guess that the Gulf Racing Colors are almost certainly on the list. You can't be the first person to want this.

A2.) It certainly does look as though the Aero Kit option requires a color selection that is NOT a "Custom Color" Apparently if you want the Aero Kit you can have any color you want as long as it's NOT a "Custom Color". I'd have to guess that the Aero Kit is coming from an outside supplier that either can not or will not accommodate anything other than the 17 colors listed as Standard, Metallic or Special.

A3.) I looked at your build and as far as I can tell, you do NOT have the lowered suspension.
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Old Oct 7, 2020 | 09:36 PM
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I'd be surprised if you can't get Aerokit in PTS. It's probably just not possible on the website. I'd talk to your SA -- they may need to work through Porsche Exclusive to confirm the spec.

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Old Oct 7, 2020 | 09:41 PM
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A1) Thank you, I figured as much since PTS was not on the menu. And yes, Gulf Racing (as is Martini Racing IIRC, but a white car in Alaska is not really what I want anyway) is on the list

A2) You'd think that for 12k they'd be able to paint the little wing whatever color you want... So I guess as @rk-d mentions it's something to bring up with the dealer. Speaking of which and since thre's no way I'm going to Kendall again, some folks recommended Gaudin in LV. Comments, alternatives?

A3) So with PASM or PASM+ you have to get the lowered suspension?

New questions:

a) Is the duck tail available as an alternative to the aerokit?

b) What discounts can we expect or is a personalized car like this going to kill a discount?

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Old Oct 7, 2020 | 10:04 PM
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My SA said they can match the PTS colour, he mentioned the dealer configurator is slightly different.
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Old Oct 7, 2020 | 10:08 PM
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Thanx Nas, appreciate it.

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Old Oct 7, 2020 | 10:52 PM
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- PASM is standard
- Sport PASM (SPASM) is an option and lowers vehicle by 10mm
- MT is option on any S model, regardless of SPASM
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Old Oct 8, 2020 | 12:33 AM
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A3) So with PASM or PASM+ you have to get the lowered suspension?
The short answer is "No".

PASM is standard equipment. This is different than, but with an almost identical name, to the "PASM Sport Suspension (Lowered 10 mm)" option. I know for a fact that you do not need to get the "PASM Sport Suspension (Lowered 10 mm)". I don't know of any single option that would require the inclusion of the "PASM Sport Suspension (Lowered 10 mm)". In fact I ordered my C2S a-la-carte specifically to avoid options that were bundled in packages.

First, like you, I did not want the "PASM Sport Suspension (Lowered 10 mm)" option. But I did want the "Sport Chrono" package and I wanted what Porsche calls the "Sport Exhaust System with Tailpipes in Silver or Black". If had ordered the "Sport Package" I'd have gotten all three. So to avoid the "PASM Sport Suspension (Lowered 10 mm)" I had to order the "Sport Chrono" package and the "Sport Exhaust System with Tailpipes in Silver or Black" options individually and separately.

The other option I wanted to avoid was the "Lane Keep Assist (LKA) incl. Traffic Sign Recognition" option. This option includes "Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC)" as a part of the "Porsche InnoDrive incl. Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) and Active Lane Keep (ALK) option package". However, I did want the "Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC)" option. So I ordered the "Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC)" option separately.

The real confusion (my opinion) is that Porsche has chosen the names of Options and Packages that are quite similar. Then just to make it even more fun they list combinations of Options as Packages and other combinations of Options as Options. It only gets better and even more confusing when TYD lists what has been ordered for the car you're having built. Trying to match that list up with what you put together on-line in the Porsche configuration tool is yet another trick altogether.

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Old Oct 8, 2020 | 12:53 AM
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Thank you gents, need to go back and review my build.

As you Bluehighways I definitely do NOT want the PASM Sport Suspension but want the Sport Chrono, need to see how much they want to open the exhaust. No interest in LKA or ACC but do want the blind spot monitoring and absolutely agree the naming convention is the pits. Do want the 360 pan view, no sun roof (in the summer you'd get eaten by the State Bird and in winter it will probably jam), no interest in Burmester I want to hear the engine. The stitching is hard to judge given the Gulf Racing livery, need to go over it again.

Thank you again for your help it's GREATLY appreciated!

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Old Oct 8, 2020 | 01:14 AM
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SPASM / PASM + is a misnomer. It is just the 10mm drop, stiffer springs, and recalibrated shocks. There are a couple of non-suspension changes as well if you select it, most obviously a different front lip / splitter.
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Old Oct 8, 2020 | 03:26 AM
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Thanx, I just want to be sure I don't order the 10mm drop as I have my skid steer, Olga, to do that

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Old Oct 8, 2020 | 06:27 PM
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SO the more I thought about the PTS/cost, the more unreasonable dreams become. So I decided for now to split the problem by forgoing PTS and opting for lava orange which would allow me to put more money into other options. And of course I outdid myself...I can't believe how easy it is to check a box and how difficult it is to actually uncheck something; just something in your inner self I guess.

So on the (new) build PMQ8TE82 I do have one question. I wanted the MT but it seems you can't choose that with the Sport Chrono Package. It seems the latter is in conjunction with the PDK and I can understand that you can't have both transmissions, but why can't you have the MT with the Sport Chrono?

Thanx for any guidance

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Old Oct 8, 2020 | 06:49 PM
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Here ya go: PMNDDNP8

This PMNDDNP8 build will get you exactly what your PMQ8TE82 build is but with a Manual Transmission and the Sport Chrono package.

What's confusing is that selecting the Manual Transmission automatically (no pun intended) adds the Sport Chrono package. If you select the Sport Chrono package, before you select the Manual Transmission option, the configuration programming will tell you that it is going to delete the Sport Chrono package. The configuration programming is designed so that it won't let you select the Sport Chrono package twice. You can't select it once by itself and then again when you select the Manual Transmission. So just select your Manual Transmission and do NOT select the Sport Chrono package. Selecting the Manual Transmission gets you the Sport Chrono package at no extra charge.
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Old Oct 8, 2020 | 07:58 PM
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Thank you so much for your explanation and taking the time.

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Old Oct 9, 2020 | 12:41 PM
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Any opinions on the center lock vs traditional 5 lug bolt? Does a 400ft/lb torque wrench come with this option? I realize it's 4 vs 20 bolts, but how much hassle is it to mount it, tighten, back it off some degrees and then re-torque? I assume an extension bar will make this easier.

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