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This is in my 2020 Ram. Do the Germans know something the rest of the world doesn’t about it being safer that way in a crash ? The natural motion of pulling the belt across and buckling works MUCH better with the buckle this way in photo of RAM.
Here is how the driver’s side looks on my 991.2 after flipping the buckle 180. This feels and drapes naturally, to me, like every other car I’ve ever had.
EDIT - I apologize for banging on about this; obviously I don't have a 992, but I've been really curious about this ever since I got my 991.2 last year. I actually thought maybe the seat belts had been installed incorrectly lol.
...and just to add to the mystery, a service document for the 991.1 that's floating around that forum, lists the 180 "twist" in the procedure for the seat belt on install, in the diagram. It's really confusing lol.
991.2 owner here, so forgive me for being in the wrong forum, but:
I have the same question on my car. The buckle, when I bought my car last June as a CPO, seemed to be opposite to what I would normally expect, i.e. the entirety of the seat belt did not lay "flat" when draped across me/passenger when clicked into the retainer. It just seemed "off". So I undid the 18mm bolt at the bottom on both sides and removed, then replaced the bottom belt bracket 180 from what it was. Now my belts lay flat and appear like every other car I've ever had.
I'm curious what you guys find on the 992.
Oh, and plus one on pushing the passenger side retainer clip up as far as it will go to eliminate that weird rattle you get otherwise. I had exactly the same problem in my 981S; guess it must be a Porsche thing lol.
Look at the bottom of the seat belt, on the sill. Locate the plastic clip (likely black). Undo the plastic cover (1), and remove the bolt (2) (18mm). Take the sleeve (4) and bracket (3) apart. Reassemble, but twist the bracket (3) 180. Re Install the bolt, then torque to 37 ft lb/50 Nm. Quaff beer.
Thank you Rich J. But can someone tell us definitively why Porsche does these new belts this way? If it's for safety are we diminishing that by modification?
Thank you Rich J. But can someone tell us definitively why Porsche does these new belts this way? If it's for safety are we diminishing that by modification?
cheers,
B
yeah, for that reason mainly I'm keeping it as is..
Apart from the unknown safety reason....I can just see an insurance loss-adjuster on the case if there was a major claim such as a near death impact and a passenger being part of an XX million claim . Think about it . Not direct personal experience, but I am close to someone who was involved in a massive automotive claim. Believe me, the defending insurance company spend A LOT of money on experts and lawyers to work every angle on claim reduction.
Sorry for the downer talk. Really I just want to flip it as above ....seems so logical.
Considering the seatbelt is a safety item, I wouldn't take the risk of modifying it without written confirmation from Porsche who obviously would not approve. There must be a method to the madness, we are just not privy to it.
Porsche engineers have a good head on their shoulders, most of the time.
Since a seatbelt is so integral to safety, death and lawsuits, MY opinion
is that this is no random mistake.
Wouldn't it be nice if we could get answers to questions like this directly from Porsche?
It could be as dumb as preventing the type of person who simply will not put on a restraint ......getting in the eye if they turned and bumped face into it .There will be a stupid legal claim from an idiot somewhere out there....
I'm going to act dumb and claim my belts are wrong way threaded when it goes in for oil change after "lock-down" to see if I can tease an answer.
04-23-2020, 12:50 PM
