992 GTS?
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Porsche site won’t let me produce code this morning for some reason. My big cost options are the leather, 18 ways, sport and sport design and premium packages, matrix, protection film, RAS, FAL, spiders, and the $$ ceramics. Other things as well, but those are the big ones. NOT doing burmeister or any roof options. But that’s 53 k of options. And that’s hard to swallow. So if I’m going to pay 165ish, I think being in a GTS or Turbo may be smarter for resale value down the road.
http://www.porsche-code.com/PLPWIJ61
I bought this car from a lot, but I found this config very close to my optimum, about 45k for options.
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Personally the I don't like Alcantara.
I'm waiting for the official Porsche performance upgrade power pack which will hopefully be out by the end of the year.
This is generally around the £5k mark.
At 1/3rd of the price of the GTS difference, I'm up for this as it offers the 30-40bhp upgrade with the full Porsche warranty.
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I'm in a similar situation, speccing a highly optioned C2S Cab and wondering whether I should wait for the GTS.
Six years ago, I had a heavily optioned 991.1 C4S Cab on order. I ordered the 4 simply for the widebody. When the GTS was announced, I immediately cancelled that order and re-ordered a GTS2 Cab. The GTS2 cost slightly less than the C4S, optioned exactly the same (except for the cool things like the centerlock wheels). Oh, and I got the 30hp PowerKit thrown in for free. That's the way the GTS has traditionally been marketed - as a discounted, well-optioned S.
However, I think that's changed. The Panamera GTS costs significantly more than a similarly equipped well-optioned S, although that GTS comes with a 8 rather than the S's 6-cylinder engine. But I don't think the Panny GTS has been anywhere near as successful as the 911 GTSs. It's certainly gotten panned by the automotive press. So it'll be interesting to see whether the 992-gen GTS sticks with the traditional formula or whether it goes in the direction of the Panny.
Six years ago, I had a heavily optioned 991.1 C4S Cab on order. I ordered the 4 simply for the widebody. When the GTS was announced, I immediately cancelled that order and re-ordered a GTS2 Cab. The GTS2 cost slightly less than the C4S, optioned exactly the same (except for the cool things like the centerlock wheels). Oh, and I got the 30hp PowerKit thrown in for free. That's the way the GTS has traditionally been marketed - as a discounted, well-optioned S.
However, I think that's changed. The Panamera GTS costs significantly more than a similarly equipped well-optioned S, although that GTS comes with a 8 rather than the S's 6-cylinder engine. But I don't think the Panny GTS has been anywhere near as successful as the 911 GTSs. It's certainly gotten panned by the automotive press. So it'll be interesting to see whether the 992-gen GTS sticks with the traditional formula or whether it goes in the direction of the Panny.
Wouldn't change it for anything. I just about ticked every box, rear axle steer, Burmester you name it. Very happy with it.
Just waiting for the official Porsche performance upgrade pack from Porsche Tequipment and I'll add that.
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This package is not yet available by Porsche, should expect it later this year
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Do yourselves a favor . . . go build a very well equipped 991.2 Targa 4S and a Targa GTS. I just did. The T4S totalled $167k. The GTS was $165k - and it included the PowerKit. You want the full SportDesign package? . . . $4500 in the T4S, $1400 in the GTS. Sport Chrono? . . . $2090 in the T4S, standard in the GTS. Leather trim? . . . $1100 in the T4S, $0 in the GTS. That list is extensive, but of course it only matters if you want all that stuff and would spec it all on a whichever S model you're considering. And that's why the 991 GTS was considered a bargain for those of us who want a loaded car.
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Porsche site won’t let me produce code this morning for some reason. My big cost options are the leather, 18 ways, sport and sport design and premium packages, matrix, protection film, RAS, FAL, spiders, and the $$ ceramics. Other things as well, but those are the big ones. NOT doing burmeister or any roof options. But that’s 53 k of options. And that’s hard to swallow. So if I’m going to pay 165ish, I think being in a GTS or Turbo may be smarter for resale value down the road.
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Umm yes M8, there is nothing special about the GTS as stated its just 25.30hp alcantara, and odds and ends that don't matter. Its a packaging exercise, as comments will show in this thread.
One thing I do not know is will the manual in the GTS, be a short throw 6 speed as apposed to ling throw manual 7 speed in the S and 4S. But honestly GTS in not worth the money.
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Umm yes M8, there is nothing special about the GTS as stated its just 25.30hp alcantara, and odds and ends that don't matter. Its a packaging exercise, as comments will show in this thread.
One thing I do not know is will the manual in the GTS, be a short throw 6 speed as apposed to ling throw manual 7 speed in the S and 4S. But honestly GTS in not worth the money.
One thing I do not know is will the manual in the GTS, be a short throw 6 speed as apposed to ling throw manual 7 speed in the S and 4S. But honestly GTS in not worth the money.
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Fact: 991 GTS is an option package which combines several desirable options from the S, adds a couple things, and sells for less than the optioned S would have sold for.
I expect the same from 992.
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This. The other posters seem not to have read your words, or think that if they repeat the same thing over and over again, it will become true.
Fact: 991 GTS is an option package which combines several desirable options from the S, adds a couple things, and sells for less than the optioned S would have sold for.
I expect the same from 992.
Fact: 991 GTS is an option package which combines several desirable options from the S, adds a couple things, and sells for less than the optioned S would have sold for.
I expect the same from 992.
As I've stated I do not find alcantara particularly desirable so I'd spec leather anyway.
I liked the fact that the GTS always came in the wider C4S body. That's out the window now too.
I'm not a fan of the sports body kit so thats out for me. In terms of slightly increased power, power upgrades will be forthcoming from Porsche anyway for the C2S.
One big put off for me has always been the fact that the GTS cars and GT cars in general always turn up near the end of the life cycle of a particular model.
So the GTS coming in on the 3rd year of production and a 992.2 coming in 6 months later is and always has been a nonsense for me.
Taking my purchase as an example (my car arrived 1st June 2019) when the GTS finally arrives in year three, I would have been driving and enjoying my highly specified slightly expensive C2S for almost 3 years. And you know what? I'm happy to pay for that
When most start chasing the GTS, I'll put an order down for a 992.2 C2S
