Bose vs burmester by whathifi
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Dan Nagy (09-24-2020)
#18
Unfortunately the way myself and others have embraced poor quality source material makes high end audio systems somewhat silly.
Most of the time I am listening to Sirius which is horrible quality wise. If not my library consists of a mix of CD’s ripped in a long time ago on various codec’s and various vintages of iTunes purchases.
Point is. Unless I go back to CD’s or make a solid attempt to use better source material it’s all crumby.
Most of the time I am listening to Sirius which is horrible quality wise. If not my library consists of a mix of CD’s ripped in a long time ago on various codec’s and various vintages of iTunes purchases.
Point is. Unless I go back to CD’s or make a solid attempt to use better source material it’s all crumby.
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Tedster (05-25-2023)
#19
Apologies to all for the off topic.
#20
Yes Sir!
Missed my 997.2TTS so bad I had to upgrade. 2017 991.2TTS
Yeah, I'll be around.
Hit me up .
#21
Ask any Car Stereo Installer about Burmester and they will give you a litany of shortcomings. Overpriced, remarkable cheap speakers, no dedicated sub woofer, anemic amplifier, limited range frequency..etc. If you want a high end system, first realize that the 992 is a sports car. According to Harry's Garage, a reliable long term British You Tuber, the cabin is remarkably noisy ! No surprise there ! If you want a quiet Porsche, get a Macan, or Cayanne. Then, perhaps, an upgraded stereo is to be considered. Are you prepared to do ALL to get the sound of your dreams ? You must insulate the car, making it heavier and pretty pricey to boot. Don't you dare allow the spray in insulation crap to be used ! Then be prepared to leave the car with a high end installer for a lengthy period of time . For the 992, the back deck is a likely location for the sub woofer and the frunk for the amplifier... Order the car with the BOSE which you will probably find to be more than adequate . Prices for a high end install can be upwards of $7,000.
#22
I enjoy reading these comparisons and people’s opinions on base vs. Bose vs. Burmester. I haven’t been able to directly check out any version in the 992, but did check them out in the 991.2. Two definite options that will be on my 992 when ordered are manual transmission and Burmester. I read how great the PDK is and how overpriced the Burmester and it’s not needed in a loud sports car. However, I love a manual transmission and I love the highest available factory sound system in every car I buy. These options are non-negotiable for me and I can’t wait to get it. So glad Porsche gives us these options.
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I think the Bose is extremely adequate. Not even as good as the Harmon Kardon in my BMW's, but given the other (more melodic) sounds of the 911, it's ok. I'm not sure the Burmester, despite its superior sonic qualities can really be appreciated in the 911. OTOH, in the Taycan's relative silence, it would be sublime.
#27
I think the Bose is extremely adequate. Not even as good as the Harmon Kardon in my BMW's, but given the other (more melodic) sounds of the 911, it's ok. I'm not sure the Burmester, despite its superior sonic qualities can really be appreciated in the 911. OTOH, in the Taycan's relative silence, it would be sublime.
#28
Do the base and Bose get the speed based tone adjustment in the sound conditioner?
In my current Cayman with aftermarket speakers and amp, the tone curve was tuned to be perfect standing still, but by 50mph the tweeters are much louder, because the road noise kills the bass.
If the Berm option boosts the bass to compensate for road noise, that’s something even the aftermarket can’t do.
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#29
Do the base and Bose get the speed based tone adjustment in the sound conditioner?
In my current Cayman with aftermarket speakers and amp, the tone curve was tuned to be perfect standing still, but by 50mph the tweeters are much louder, because the road noise kills the bass.
If the Berm option boosts the bass to compensate for road noise, that’s something even the aftermarket can’t do.
In my past life sound engineer set up bands sound checks . Bands for jazz series here in California like George Benson, Commodores , BB King or Police drop few names . sAudiophile at home units Tubes preamp , mono block amps electrostatic speakers exct . If your spending let’s say $150-200 k for a Porsche why split hairs between Bose and Burmister not even in the same planet not comparable I have both Bose in my Panamara and Burmister in 911 . I checked in with La Jolla Audio the premier stereo outfitter In San Diego . They have listened and tested the Burmister I quote “ at twice to three times the money of the upcharge of the Burmister they could not duplicate the sound of the Burmister “. I’ve heard you need a better sub if you want an artificial sound so be it but for my ears it’s accurate from the recording . It’s what we’re looking for the holy grail accuracy of the original intent of the recording engineer. Leaf tweeters and correct placement of the speakers provides the imaging . The base on the Burmister is adequate look at the area inside the 911 its tiny huge subs are not required . It’s 1400 watts its clean sound not distorted . What else do you need ? Artificial base so you can have a massage ? The Burmister already shakes the whole body . The Bose at high level is muffled and distorted . It’s mid phy . It been mainstream mid phy for years . Burmister utilized on 2 -3 million dollar Bugattis is high end audio . Let your ears tell you what your hearing . Take a low level listen to vocals . The recording needs to be good to test . Listen to Brothers in Arms great recording Dire straits . Compare what you all like . It’s not about the every item on the Burmister it’s the whole system togeather designed and balanced . The amps and front in the connectors . Yes damping would help on 911 compared to a Panamara . By the time you tear apart take a old stereo out your out for $5 k install something else it might and probably not sound as good as The Burmister is a deal . My number one option on my 911 is the Burmister than I see the rest of the options like ac seats and so on . You spend the time to enjoy the ride than spend the money for the best sound .
https://www.burmester.de/automotive/porsche-soundsystem/
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