You misunderstood.

 

Picked my C2S up on Saturday, and was chatting to my SA about Porsche quoted acceleration times.

He said Porsche report the figures as tested on the lowest octane fuel the car will run with - he said the reported figures for the 992 are based on 60 octane fuel, as per parts of China.

He said UK and US tests showing better numbers are with the recommended 98 octane (or higher).

He's generally been pretty accurate with stuff, so I'm simply reporting what he told me.

 

PDK will drop down to the appropriate gear...especially in the new and improved 992.

 

The Car and Driver 50-70 in top gear test is done in manual mode. They start out manually selecting the highest gear, maintaining 50mph, and then flooring the gas without touching the paddles.

edit: Actually I am wrong for automatic / PDK cars. It seems like they leave it in auto then floor it. In cars with a manual gearbox what I said is correct.

 

I wonder if the 992 GTS will follow the Panamera GTS and new Macan GTS in using a de-tuned Turbo model engine instead of an enhanced S engine (plus other goodies).

 

That is kind of insane ... I am seriously looking at transitioning out of my 2019 CayenneS to a 992 C4S in the Spring as a DD given the real world drivability / all wheel drive for the Midwest weather.
2.8s is faster than a 488 GTB and tenth off the Pista ??
It's almost not a fair fight.
I think Merc has done a great job with their new GT offerings (roadster, coupe etc.) but the Porsche is just all about sublime brilliance .. well done.

 

I don't think there's any way whatsoever that the 992 GTS will use a 3.8 liter de-tuned engine from the Turbo model. That wouldn't follow the approach based on 991.1 and 991.2 models as well as 997.2. Those engines all used enhanced engines based on the S versions.

 

You can look at 0-60 times and 1/4 mile times all you want, but be sure to look at the numbers above 120+ mph. For example, the GT3 will pull away at those speeds. Same may be true of 488 GTB. There are certain effects of gearing that are more important down low in speed.

 

OK I went and looked at 488 GTB numbers. That car is more comparable with a 991.2 TTS and we'll leave it at that. A GTB can do 0-100 mph in 5.5 seconds.

The GTB is the Bill Braskey of automotive.

 

True, but it wasn’t the formula of past for Panamera or Macan GTS but seems to be Porsche’s new approach with at least the 2 models. Completely different types of vehicles of course and neither with the tradition of the 911.

Regardless of how they get there, the new GTS will be fantastic.

 

A 991 GT3 isn't going to embarrass a 992 S model at speed. I can't wait to see what the 992 GT3 and Turbo cars will be like.

 

60 octane??? And here I am complaining that the best I can get up here in Alaska is 90 octane.

 

0-150 mph:

991.2 GT3 16.7 sec
992 C2S 17.7 to 18.8 sec per published reports - at minimum a full second behind and it gets worse with higher speeds. Not that it really matters, both cars are fast.

Didn't say it was embarrassing I just said the GT3 will pull away above 120 mph, which it will.
And once again, the 992 GTS will close the gap between S and GT3, which has always been the marketing approach to that model.

But hark!! the herald angels sing!! Glory to the newborn King!! The 992 faithful will exclaim from the mountaintops-- "The 992 C2S is as quick as a GT3 from 0-60 and in 1/4 mile times!!"- AND THEY WOULD BE RIGHT !!

But above 120 mph, 4.0 liter engine will pull away. Up there you are talking 500-510 hp and better aero vs. 443 hp.

 

The GTS has always been the top performance trim in the Carrera lineup. It'll be here before we know it.

 

agreed, in a way the base model might be the way to go... not too badly priced.