rouxeny

Just curious. The configuator doesn’t give much information about what RAS can do.

I know the best answer would be to test drive a car with and without, but that may be logistically difficult to do.

any opinions from the group?

GratedWasabi

I believe if you're getting an S you should get RAS. It improves all around agility. I don't recall anyone disliking it. But it's certainly not a requirement.

n4v4nod

Do a search... this has been discussed multiple times. People are split on RAS.

rockrdude

it makes the car more agile, but I doubt you'd miss it if you don't drive them back to back with and without. So it's Nice to have, not need to have

JonasCord

I would definitely recommend getting it either if you are going to daily your 911 or track it. It just makes life easier while maneuvering in tight spaces, whilst parking and while you're going at high speeds its makes it slightly easier to change lanes. It's not a necessary option but, if your budget allows it, I would tick that box. I can surely feel a difference when I compare my 911 to my 718. Cheers

992Sam

I personally feel it's a must have if you do a lot of urban driving in streets like SF... just makes the car that much easier to park and take those narrow street turns

JHesketh

It is definitely noticeable. You won’t mistake a non-RAS car for a RAS one.

When I first drove a RAS 992 it felt a bit like the rear end was slipping but you quickly adjust to feeling that the front end is very direct and accurate. That is the nature of the ‘agility’.

There are times I feel that RAS pushes the point at which you have to work to balance the car on the throttle just a little bit further away. At other times I think it makes the attitude of the car even more responsive to throttle control. It is so communicative and willing.

RAS is not essential. It is very good. RAS and non-RAS are two different characters neither one better, one may just be better for how you want to drive. IMHO.

Porsche911GTS'16

The difference is night and day. My 991.1 GTS does not have it (it was not an option) but it does have PDCC (which I highly suggest). But PDCC and RAS have different purposes. RAS is far more noticeable. I have it in my Touring. It is a game-changer. It would be hard to mistake a naturally aspirated GTS from a GT3T for several reasons, two of the biggies being the engine (obviously) but the handling of the car is next, next level. As I have said in the past, after driving my Touring, when I get in my GTS, it feels more Lexus than Porsche. Not a bad thing for a daily driver, and that was not the case before I had the GT3, but now that I go back and forth between the cars, the difference between the two is quite stark. And RAS has a lot to do with that. Definitely a box I would check on any 911, if available.

rouxeny

Thanks. I searched for anything on PDCC here, and didn’t come up with much. I’m looking at a daily commute car, essentially no city driving, minimal stop and go, and no tracking (unfortunately).

Can you elaborate on what difference you find PDCC makes?

JonasCord

If that's the case, I wouldn't worry with PDCC at all. From what I've gathered PDCC is only noticeable on SUV's or if you are really "on it" while driving. Most people tend to shy away from PDCC on 911's. My 2 cents are that you shouldn't opt for PDCC and instead go for RAS. Or you can also opt out of PDCC & RAS and spend the money on other options. Given the usage you're going to give the car, neither one of these options is a necessity.

JonasCord

I've also driven both the 991.1, 991.2 and 992 with PDCC and I've noticed no difference (when it comes to my driving style) when switching to my non PDCC 992.

jkautz

JonasCord is spot on. Testing both with & without PDCC, it will be unnoticeable. PASM alone(which is now standard on the 911); already eliminates body roll.. and if you look at the history behind PDCC, it is designed specifically for performance SUV's. It helps mask the feeling of being in a larger vehicle. Very unnecessary on a 911.

I'd take or leave RAS. That option is a matter of taste; personally, I would never opt for it. Though my reasoning is purely behind racing history. I've come to find not a lot of guys on the 992 forum follow IMSA or other Porsche racing, so not many can relate.. 4-wheel steering is not allowed, and will never be allowed.. So it's more of a purist take for me.

uniqueMR

Skip.

Michigan 992

PASM lowered 10 mm is great on my car for body control and damping. On Michigan’s poor roads it has plenty compliance. I don’t see a need for PDCC with a coupe.

I have RAS and love how the car handles. It is amazingly seamless in its behavior until you get close to full lock in a parking maneuver. I would definitely order it again. However, having professionally evaluated a ton of vehicles over the years, you are not going to notice anything missing or less than fully satisfying if you don’t get it. These cars have been too good across the years without RAS for not having it to suddenly be an issue.

detansinn

If you want the best possible turning in all conditions, get RAS. If you want the character of the classic “911 experience”, skip it. You really can’t go wrong either way.

I am convinced that, if not for the purists, Porsche would have made RAS standard on these cars.

That being said, having driven both, my own 992 doesn’t have it. This is really as much personal preference as paint color and interior choices.