992 order placed, sitting in 992 for the first time made my 991 interior feel old
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After driving the 992 I love it dynamically for a daily driver...the interior ergonomics are actually a little annoying at times but likely all workable in the long run (lots of awkward angles and what I call T-rex arms to activate things like the window switches and park button, even the volume ****). Im debating if I really need to update from my 991.2 4s which has about 500 AWHP from the Cobb tune or not...which is major credit to Porsche as I never thought I would even think that far.
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Sam - insightful comments, as always. You call the 991 interior "old," I would say it has a "patina" compared to the much more modern 992. I, for one, prefer the 5 analogue gauges (all of which are visible) in the 991 and I prefer being able to shift gears with the gear shifter. I am also not a fan of the 992 cupholder situation, either for the driver or the passenger. I am not saying the 991 interior is better than the 992 interior. I am saying it is better for me which is all that counts, at the end of the day.
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Sam - insightful comments, as always. You call the 991 interior "old," I would say it has a "patina" compared to the much more modern 992. I, for one, prefer the 5 analogue gauges (all of which are visible) in the 991 and I prefer being able to shift gears with the gear shifter. I am also not a fan of the 992 cupholder situation, either for the driver or the passenger. I am not saying the 991 interior is better than the 992 interior. I am saying it is better for me which is all that counts, at the end of the day.
992 is definitely more tech-centric and there are a number of things I like such as the center tach, but the interior doesn’t feel cohesive and there are a number of odd elements that seemed cobbled together. For example, I don’t think the horizontal shelf pairs well with the piano black vertical section, and I don’t think either are going to age well. And I don’t understand why the center cup holder is so prominent.
The majority of it is subjective... at the end. I will say this however, I NEVER use cup holders because I NEVER drink, not even water in my car.. I actually remember the day when most European makers refused to instal cupholders in their cars.. it was the Big gulp happy US market that demanded it and punished them vs the Japanese who were happy to give you 12 big gulp sized cup holders that made them add them in.
I’m glad you like the 992. Enjoy in good health. I’ve seen a couple pop up on the streets in SF Bay Area now.
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Patina is a great word to describe the 991 interior. I’ve sat in both 991.2 and 992 and also prefer the 991 interior. It feels more integrated and focused.
992 is definitely more tech-centric and there are a number of things I like such as the center tach, but the interior doesn’t feel cohesive and there are a number of odd elements that seemed cobbled together. For example, I don’t think the horizontal shelf pairs well with the piano black vertical section, and I don’t think either are going to age well. And I don’t understand why the center cup holder is so prominent.
Don’t you get thirsty?😄. Impressive if you can not drink at all on say a 3 hour road trip. Would be nice if there was a delete cup holder option then. I don’t mean the cubby hole, but some sleek cover over the cubby hole.
I’m glad you like the 992. Enjoy in good health. I’ve seen a couple pop up on the streets in SF Bay Area now.
992 is definitely more tech-centric and there are a number of things I like such as the center tach, but the interior doesn’t feel cohesive and there are a number of odd elements that seemed cobbled together. For example, I don’t think the horizontal shelf pairs well with the piano black vertical section, and I don’t think either are going to age well. And I don’t understand why the center cup holder is so prominent.
Don’t you get thirsty?😄. Impressive if you can not drink at all on say a 3 hour road trip. Would be nice if there was a delete cup holder option then. I don’t mean the cubby hole, but some sleek cover over the cubby hole.
I’m glad you like the 992. Enjoy in good health. I’ve seen a couple pop up on the streets in SF Bay Area now.
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I sat in one last week while waiting to pick up my car at the service desk. I didn't take it out. Compared to my C2, looking out the front the hood seems higher, fenders flatter, overall wider, and I couldn't position the seat to have the same forward vision of the road. I didn't like the outward view as much but the interior materials are a step up for sure.
The car was a magnificent Miami Blue with black rims (https://www.porscheoftysonscorner.co...9ls226456.html ...the photos do NOT do this car justice).
When the manual transmission is available, I will take one out for a spin.
The car was a magnificent Miami Blue with black rims (https://www.porscheoftysonscorner.co...9ls226456.html ...the photos do NOT do this car justice).
When the manual transmission is available, I will take one out for a spin.
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The majority of it is subjective... at the end. I will say this however, I NEVER use cup holders because I NEVER drink, not even water in my car.. I actually remember the day when most European makers refused to instal cupholders in their cars.. it was the Big gulp happy US market that demanded it and punished them vs the Japanese who were happy to give you 12 big gulp sized cup holders that made them add them in.
EXACTLY, I have never understood why a motor vehicle should be responsible for managing beverages. More confusing to me is that humans who drink (and eat) in vehicles also have to you know, use the bathroom... I understand that people want comfort and convince but if that's at the forefront then why aren't toilets installed right into the seats? I mean what's more uncomfortable? Racing to a rest stop because your thirsty or because your insides are about to burst?
Patina is a great word to describe the 991 interior. I’ve sat in both 991.2 and 992 and also prefer the 991 interior. It feels more integrated and focused.
992 is definitely more tech-centric and there are a number of things I like such as the center tach, but the interior doesn’t feel cohesive and there are a number of odd elements that seemed cobbled together. For example, I don’t think the horizontal shelf pairs well with the piano black vertical section, and I don’t think either are going to age well. And I don’t understand why the center cup holder is so prominent.
992 is definitely more tech-centric and there are a number of things I like such as the center tach, but the interior doesn’t feel cohesive and there are a number of odd elements that seemed cobbled together. For example, I don’t think the horizontal shelf pairs well with the piano black vertical section, and I don’t think either are going to age well. And I don’t understand why the center cup holder is so prominent.
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992Sam (10-29-2019)
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I sat in a 992 today while at the dealer. If I were in the market for a new 911, I would not let my two little gripes of my initial impressions stop me.
I don’t mind the small shifter for the PDK, I think it integrates well with the other switch gear forward of it. I was not impressed with the quality of the buttons for the seat heating and cooling. For ME, it seems of lesser quality than the nice lil nubbin toggle switches.
I am surprised how small the little “nubbin” is which is used to start the engine. Is it true that it is standard regardless whether or not you have Entry & Drive? I kinda like taking my Fob out to start the engine. It is a small act, but it provides a connection to the car, however small a detail that it is. That and the manual transmission let me pretend that I am driving an old air cooled 911. I guess we all “connect” with our cars differently. For me it’s not about 0-60 times or lap times of some ring in Germany that I may never see. It’s the sensory connection whether driving spritely on an isolated road or just cruising around town.
I must admit that I am envious anytime I see someone in an air cooled 911. For them it’s not about the entertainment system or other gizmos. They seem to be content with simplicity. Granted, its probably not their daily driver.
Congratulations to all who are getting 992’s, it’s continuing a great automotive heritage. To paraphrase what my cousin once told me. I never me a Porsche that I didn’t like.
I don’t mind the small shifter for the PDK, I think it integrates well with the other switch gear forward of it. I was not impressed with the quality of the buttons for the seat heating and cooling. For ME, it seems of lesser quality than the nice lil nubbin toggle switches.
I am surprised how small the little “nubbin” is which is used to start the engine. Is it true that it is standard regardless whether or not you have Entry & Drive? I kinda like taking my Fob out to start the engine. It is a small act, but it provides a connection to the car, however small a detail that it is. That and the manual transmission let me pretend that I am driving an old air cooled 911. I guess we all “connect” with our cars differently. For me it’s not about 0-60 times or lap times of some ring in Germany that I may never see. It’s the sensory connection whether driving spritely on an isolated road or just cruising around town.
I must admit that I am envious anytime I see someone in an air cooled 911. For them it’s not about the entertainment system or other gizmos. They seem to be content with simplicity. Granted, its probably not their daily driver.
Congratulations to all who are getting 992’s, it’s continuing a great automotive heritage. To paraphrase what my cousin once told me. I never me a Porsche that I didn’t like.
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My 991.2 Launch Edition C2S was approaching the end of its four-year warranty and I went to the dealer yesterday prepared to consider ordering a 992 C4S. After driving one, and comparing the interior, door handles, etc. to that of a left-over 2019 991.2 C4S, I went home with the 2019. Obviously personal preference, but my wife was emphatically in agreement as well.
Maybe it's generational, but the 992 nubbin, smart phone like dash, etc. turned me off completely. Driving, the performance level of both the 991.2 and the 992 was more than adequate for me for the type of street use that I envision.
Maybe it's generational, but the 992 nubbin, smart phone like dash, etc. turned me off completely. Driving, the performance level of both the 991.2 and the 992 was more than adequate for me for the type of street use that I envision.
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My 991.2 Launch Edition C2S was approaching the end of its four-year warranty and I went to the dealer yesterday prepared to consider ordering a 992 C4S. After driving one, and comparing the interior, door handles, etc. to that of a left-over 2019 991.2 C4S, I went home with the 2019. Obviously personal preference, but my wife was emphatically in agreement as well.
Maybe it's generational, but the 992 nubbin, smart phone like dash, etc. turned me off completely. Driving, the performance level of both the 991.2 and the 992 was more than adequate for me for the type of street use that I envision.
Maybe it's generational, but the 992 nubbin, smart phone like dash, etc. turned me off completely. Driving, the performance level of both the 991.2 and the 992 was more than adequate for me for the type of street use that I envision.
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Can confirm: I was dismissive of it at first and hated the shifter. Thought the retro designs were too much. Then I drove one. Realized my 991.2 interior was dated compared to it. Then I ordered one lol.
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I thought about the 991.2 briefly. It's a nice car without doubt. After experiencing the 992, the 991.2 seemed a bit dated. Hence, there is a 992 in my garage.
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When I sat in the 992 it felt more open and not as cozy as the 991, which is probably why I like the latter more. I am looking forward to driving a manual since even though I do not care for the 992's looks it is still a 911, but I do not need or want the techy stuff so I may never come around to one, and if that is what people call outdated I see what you mean.
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When I sat in the 992 it felt more open and not as cozy as the 991, which is probably why I like the latter more. I am looking forward to driving a manual since even though I do not care for the 992's looks it is still a 911, but I do not need or want the techy stuff so I may never come around to one, and if that is what people call outdated I see what you mean.
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Also, I'm happy the US cars won't have GPF (for now), and the car is full ICE and no hybrid (for now). I will take it
Fair enough. I respect your opinion. Both are very nice 911's and I feel that you can't go wrong. I've had the previous gen cars and they're phenomenal as well. I was skeptical with the tech in the 992 at first, but after having now driving one daily for a short period it's legitimately good and I feel that Porsche has 'upped' the game with the 992.
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The 991 interior felt dated to me when I got my 991 GT3 back in 2015.