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Old Oct 25, 2020 | 08:45 PM
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Correct...118 lb/ft for 5-bolt 992 wheels.
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Old Oct 26, 2020 | 11:31 AM
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Does anybody have a link that lists the Porsche N spec winter tires for both 19/20 and 20/21 rims?
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Old Oct 27, 2020 | 04:07 AM
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Not me. I've been driving a turbo cabriolet around in the winter the last 5 years, although I'm going to park it this winter if I don't end up putting it up for sale soon. But I will definitely be driving my new 992 4S all through the upcoming winter. I'm actually kind of looking forward to it. An AWD 911 with good snow tires almost feels like you're driving around in a snowmachine.
I went for a drive tonight and even though it was 35 degrees, I about lost it when I pushed hard on east Klatt going around a Subaru. Gathered it up and then almost slid into the island in the center of the roundabout by the cemetery. Again, 35 degrees but it must have froze/glazed at some point late this afternoon. Scared me pretty good, I'll be on the phone to Tire Rack tomorrow. I just got a set of Blizzaks/wheels for my Macan last week so I'm about ready to put those on this weekend. May as well get snow tires for the C4S or I'll have to park it until spring.

We had a long, tough winter last year and I got stuck with the Macan trying to get home, had to have it towed to the dealer. Turns out, Porsche electronics do not like it when you spin tires and if you do it enough trying to get out of deep snow, the wheel spin confuses the ECU and it shuts off the front wheel drive. Dealer has to clear the codes so everything operates again. Do not want to repeat that experience.
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Old Oct 27, 2020 | 04:39 PM
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Looks like TireRack has N-rated 20"/21" Michelin PA5's in stock now. The rear's had been on backorder for a while. You still can't find these tires on their website by searching for winter tires for the 992, so you have to search for them on your own. Here are links:

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Done, be here by Friday.
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Old Oct 27, 2020 | 06:31 PM
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Given the 2 month EPA-related delay of my C2S, I asked the dealer to price both the 19/20 and the 20/21 OEM winter wheel sets. He came back and confirmed price for both but when I asked for tire specifics, he confirmed the 20/21's are PA5's, but then told me that the 19/20's will not work on my car. I have RAS, but thought the 19/20's were ultimately okayed by Porsche for this build option? Any recent similar conversations out there?
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Old Oct 27, 2020 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Brandguy
Given the 2 month EPA-related delay of my C2S, I asked the dealer to price both the 19/20 and the 20/21 OEM winter wheel sets. He came back and confirmed price for both but when I asked for tire specifics, he confirmed the 20/21's are PA5's, but then told me that the 19/20's will not work on my car. I have RAS, but thought the 19/20's were ultimately okayed by Porsche for this build option? Any recent similar conversations out there?
The newest 19/20 OEM set should be fine with RAS, unless you have the PCCBs. As you can check from the "Good to Know" app, a.k.a. "the digital user manual", the rear tyres should be sized 295/35/20. It's confirmed there that the 19/20 set is ok. Make sure that the OEM set in question matches with this rear tyre size. Unless the dealer is selling you an old version of the 19/20 OEM set (which had 295/40/20 rear tyres), they are giving you wrong information.

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Old Oct 27, 2020 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by TheGreatJ
The newest 19/20 OEM set should be fine with RAS, unless you have the PCCBs. As you can check from the "Good to Know" app, a.k.a. "the digital user manual", the rear tyres should be sized 295/35/20. It's confirmed there that the 19/20 set is ok. Make sure that the OEM set in question matches with this rear tyre size. Unless the dealer is selling you an old version of the 19/20 OEM set (which had 295/40/20 rear tyres), they are giving you wrong information.
Thanks much -- I will check with them
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Old Oct 28, 2020 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Brandguy
Thanks much -- I will check with them
This is what I ordered from getporschparts for my 19/20's winters, these are the ones you would want..

992 911 (2020+) 19/20" Carrera Silver Winter Wheel/Tire Set. Set of 4 Light-alloy wheels in slimline dual-arm 5-spoke design. Continental Winter Contact tires with TPMS. Front axle: 8,5 J x 19 RO 52 with 235/40 R19 96V XL M+S tires, Rear axle: 11 J x 20 RO 66 with 295/35 R20 105V XL M+S tires. Please note: Not in combination with Porsche Ceramic Composite Brake (PCCB).
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Old Oct 28, 2020 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Richard_Wallace
This is what I ordered from getporschparts for my 19/20's winters, these are the ones you would want..

992 911 (2020+) 19/20" Carrera Silver Winter Wheel/Tire Set. Set of 4 Light-alloy wheels in slimline dual-arm 5-spoke design. Continental Winter Contact tires with TPMS. Front axle: 8,5 J x 19 RO 52 with 235/40 R19 96V XL M+S tires, Rear axle: 11 J x 20 RO 66 with 295/35 R20 105V XL M+S tires. Please note: Not in combination with Porsche Ceramic Composite Brake (PCCB).
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Old Oct 28, 2020 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Brandguy
Given the 2 month EPA-related delay of my C2S, I asked the dealer to price both the 19/20 and the 20/21 OEM winter wheel sets. He came back and confirmed price for both but when I asked for tire specifics, he confirmed the 20/21's are PA5's, but then told me that the 19/20's will not work on my car. I have RAS, but thought the 19/20's were ultimately okayed by Porsche for this build option? Any recent similar conversations out there?
Quick update -- heard back from my SA who is now telling me that the 19/20 setup won't work with PASM, which of course is part of the Sport Package in the 2021 MY. He says that this is directly from Porsche....
I'm likely to go with the 19/20 setup anyway given all the input across this thread -- seems pretty clear to me that it should be fine
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Old Oct 28, 2020 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Brandguy
Quick update -- heard back from my SA who is now telling me that the 19/20 setup won't work with PASM, which of course is part of the Sport Package in the 2021 MY. He says that this is directly from Porsche....
I'm likely to go with the 19/20 setup anyway given all the input across this thread -- seems pretty clear to me that it should be fine
I think SA is incorrect...lots of folks have 2020 SPASM cars with the 19/20 winter wheel setup.
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Old Oct 28, 2020 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Brandguy
Quick update -- heard back from my SA who is now telling me that the 19/20 setup won't work with PASM, which of course is part of the Sport Package in the 2021 MY. He says that this is directly from Porsche....
I'm likely to go with the 19/20 setup anyway given all the input across this thread -- seems pretty clear to me that it should be fine
I've got SPASM and the 19/20 winter wheel set. It's totally fine and there's no issue unless you've got PCCBs, but tip of the hat to the SA for the upsell attempt. LOL
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Old Oct 28, 2020 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Brandguy
Quick update -- heard back from my SA who is now telling me that the 19/20 setup won't work with PASM, which of course is part of the Sport Package in the 2021 MY. He says that this is directly from Porsche....
I'm likely to go with the 19/20 setup anyway given all the input across this thread -- seems pretty clear to me that it should be fine
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I think SA is incorrect...lots of folks have 2020 SPASM cars with the 19/20 winter wheel setup.
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I've got SPASM and the 19/20 winter wheel set. It's totally fine and there's no issue unless you've got PCCBs, but tip of the hat to the SA for the upsell attempt. LOL
It says in the latest version of the 911 manual in the "Good to Know" App that the 19/20 set won't work for cars with SPASM in Australia, South Korea and Vietnam. Last time, when I checked my geography book, the United States of America wasn't a part of any of the mentioned continents/countries.. According to the app, this information is valid for cars built 11/19 onwards. The previous version, on the other hand, concerning cars built between 5/19-11/19, didn't mention anything about the the cars with SPASM, but instead okayed the set for all cars without PCCBs. (For what it is worth, my German Porsche dealer also confirmed that the set in question is fine with cars with RAS and SPASM. I'm inclined to believe them, since my SA just called and wished me happy birthday as well... )

@Brandguy I guess you're located in the U.S. as your profile says, right? Maybe you can show this page on the app to your SA.


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Old Oct 28, 2020 | 02:49 PM
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I sometimes wonder whether I could grow my business much faster if I went out and hired a bunch of SA's from Porsche.....
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Old Oct 28, 2020 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Brandguy
I sometimes wonder whether I could grow my business much faster if I went out and hired a bunch of SA's from Porsche.....
For some strange reason, the same thought has occurred to me a couple of times too..
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