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Old 05-11-2019, 12:11 PM
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Default 992 4S review by CARWOW

Enjoy.
0-60 time is very impressive

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Just watched this review from UK - the guy owns a 996, had very fair comments (not all positive) but summed up with best all round sports car on the market and he would buy one with his own money.

Best of all: instrumented 0-60mph twice in a row in exactly 3.0 secs for the 4S - I am shocked.
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Did he say they're pumping fake engine noise through the speakers at 16:47? Say it isn't so.
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Originally Posted by clutchplate
Did he say they're pumping fake engine noise through the speakers at 16:47? Say it isn't so.
I think he's mistaken that with the sound piping. Engine sounds through speakers on a 911? Grab my pitchfork, please.

Also disturbing is seeing his underwear. Plumber moment.
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Originally Posted by John Mclane
Also disturbing is seeing his underwear. Plumber moment.
Very true. A new low for a car review...
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Originally Posted by pelucidor
Very true. A new low for a car review...
It could be a tongue. I'm not sure if that improves or makes it worse. I know I wouldn't buy that particular car ever. It's tainted
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I need confirmation about fake engine noises...

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Originally Posted by captainkirk
I need confirmation about fake engine noises...
I wouldn't be surprised. BMW has done it with the M5. Turbos tend to silence exhaust sounds, so supplementing the sound that makes it past the turbos with pretend sound would make sense.

Just another reason why I can't get my head wrapped around a 992.1
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Originally Posted by captainkirk
I need confirmation about fake engine noises...
Confirmation seems to exist only in the imagination of posters. .
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Looks like he learned from experience regarding the bikes potential to scratch the leather
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Car and driver vbox for 991.2 c2s is 0-60 3.1 for reference

quarter mile is more apparent
11.4 991.2
11.1 992
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Originally Posted by captainkirk
I need confirmation about fake engine noises...
I want to know this as well. There's a big difference between piping real engine sounds from the engine bay into the cabin... and actually electronically generating fake engine sounds and playing it thru the car's speaker system (**cough** BMW **cough**). I understand why manufacturers are doing it tho... customers are demanding cars get more and more refined... and thus cars get more and more insulated... and this same insulation prevents you from hearing the actual engine. So they have to generate engine noise to make up for those lost sounds.
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Originally Posted by Crester
I want to know this as well. There's a big difference between piping real engine sounds from the engine bay into the cabin... and actually electronically generating fake engine sounds and playing it thru the car's speaker system (**cough** BMW **cough**). I understand why manufacturers are doing it tho... customers are demanding cars get more and more refined... and thus cars get more and more insulated... and this same insulation prevents you from hearing the actual engine. So they have to generate engine noise to make up for those lost sounds.

Despite my misgivings about some of the 992 design choices; I find it hard to believe that Porsche would go down the path of fake engine sounds. In fact, I don’t believe it.

I think the reviewer doesn’t understand the system that’s been in the 991 and now 992. ie. the sound symposer (tube, or tubes). Some owners plugged them in the 991.1
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Then there's the hardware, with Porsche having upgraded both the exhaust (standard and sport versions) and the sound symposer (tuber channeling engine noise into the cabin, rather that speaker-delivered aural augmentation as you get with brands like BMW).

And, before inviting you to check out the 2020 Porsche 911 Carrera S track stint, we'll remind you how the carmaker describes the said hardware changes.

"The engineers have paid great attention to the sound balance of the intake and exhaust sides when carrying out further development. A sound symposer with activatable second channel behind the rear trim panel provides information on the breathing frequency of the flat engine. The exhaust systems have been revamped to offer a characteristic and attractive sound experience for the Porsche 911, in spite of stricter noise requirements and installation of the gasoline particulate filter. The twin-branch exhaust system now includes map-controlled and fully variable exhaust flaps. This control system permits both optimum power development as well as an emotional sound. The flaps are actuated electrically by means of stepper motors. This makes it possible to now also set intermediate positions," we are being told
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Originally Posted by Steph001
Then there's the hardware, with Porsche having upgraded both the exhaust (standard and sport versions) and the sound symposer (tuber channeling engine noise into the cabin, rather that speaker-delivered aural augmentation as you get with brands like BMW).

And, before inviting you to check out the 2020 Porsche 911 Carrera S track stint, we'll remind you how the carmaker describes the said hardware changes.

"The engineers have paid great attention to the sound balance of the intake and exhaust sides when carrying out further development. A sound symposer with activatable second channel behind the rear trim panel provides information on the breathing frequency of the flat engine. The exhaust systems have been revamped to offer a characteristic and attractive sound experience for the Porsche 911, in spite of stricter noise requirements and installation of the gasoline particulate filter. The twin-branch exhaust system now includes map-controlled and fully variable exhaust flaps. This control system permits both optimum power development as well as an emotional sound. The flaps are actuated electrically by means of stepper motors. This makes it possible to now also set intermediate positions," we are being told
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