Notices
992 2019-Present The Forum for the Non-Turbo 911
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

992 Nurburgring Lap Time Thread

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-08-2019, 05:46 PM
  #1  
Sharm
Pro
Thread Starter
 
Sharm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: DC Area
Posts: 695
Received 75 Likes on 43 Posts
Default 992 Nurburgring Lap Time Thread

Thought I would begin a thread for the 992 Nurburgring lap times for the various models. That being said, I have not seen any official times released yet. I have seen this snippet in a recent 992 autoblog deep dive but no time was given. How much do you guys/gals think the 992 S will surpass the previous iteration. More interestingly, will it surpass the 991.2 GTS or will the GTSs superior aero keep it at bay?
Attached Images  
Old 03-08-2019, 05:56 PM
  #2  
Psorcery
Banned
 
Psorcery's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 1,824
Likes: 0
Received 171 Likes on 127 Posts
Default

Thanks for posting.

So the 991.2 GTS is still faster around the ring vs a 992 S.. That's been confirmed already.

However.. These 0-60 times are interesting.. It's well known that Porsche underrated the 0-60 times on the 991.2. There have been cases of 991.2 C2S and GTS reaching 60mph in 3.1 seconds... 3.1 is fast but surely not consistent in the 991.2 RWD. Even in stock form my 991.2 GTS would spin on the launch depending on tire temperature and pavement surface. Either the car launched so well that the blood would move to the back of my head and make me dizzy or it would simply spin.

Seems like Porsche stuffed that 21" rear back there for good reason.. The 991 RS ran this setup and it's been adopted in the 992. The 21" rear as stated above is surely the "best setup". The extra weight and diameter of the tire definitely increases traction making the 992 superior to the 991 in terms of launching for 0-60.

I'm certainly going to adopt this method onto my 991.2 GTS and also put a 21" rear.
Old 03-09-2019, 08:57 AM
  #3  
K-A
Drifting
 
K-A's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 2,452
Received 139 Likes on 97 Posts
Default

I thought we were given a time? I remember it coming up in another thread and noting that the difference between 992 and 991.2 S Ring times was a bit greater than the difference between documented 991.1 and 991.2 S times (7:37.9 vs 7:34). The 991.2 GTS proved fairly significant over the 991.2 S (10 seconds).
Old 03-09-2019, 09:43 AM
  #4  
Sebvelez
Instructor
 
Sebvelez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Miami Beach, FL
Posts: 235
Received 138 Likes on 61 Posts
Default

This is the info that I have found from Motor Authority:

”Speaking on Thursday during a drive event for the redesigned 2020 Porsche 911 Carrera S, a Porsche spokesman revealed the car will lap the Nürburgring in a time of 7:25, which makes it a full 5.0 seconds faster than the previous-generation Carrera S.”

link: https://www.motorauthority.com/news/...n-previous-gen
The following users liked this post:
G650 (01-23-2020)
Old 03-11-2019, 07:24 PM
  #5  
Osv
Advanced
 
Osv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Posts: 85
Received 35 Likes on 22 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Psorcery

I'm certainly going to adopt this method onto my 991.2 GTS and also put a 21" rear.
Your PSM and traction management won't like that at all
Old 03-11-2019, 07:37 PM
  #6  
Psorcery
Banned
 
Psorcery's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 1,824
Likes: 0
Received 171 Likes on 127 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Osv
Your PSM and traction management won't like that at all
It will be fine. Rotating diameter of the wheel/tire will only increase 0.01". My current 20" setup on Cup 2 is sitting 0.02" higher.

The following users liked this post:
dhirm5 (01-24-2020)
Old 03-12-2019, 04:16 PM
  #7  
GrantG
Addict
Rennlist Member

 
GrantG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Denver
Posts: 18,206
Received 5,134 Likes on 2,892 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Psorcery
So the 991.2 GTS is still faster around the ring vs a 992 S.. That's been confirmed already.
I think the GTS laptime was with an optional stickier tire. Not sure the same advantage was afforded the 992...

The following 3 users liked this post by GrantG:
carson2 (01-23-2020), Doug H (01-22-2020), G650 (01-23-2020)
Old 03-12-2019, 04:18 PM
  #8  
Psorcery
Banned
 
Psorcery's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 1,824
Likes: 0
Received 171 Likes on 127 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by GrantG
I think the GTS laptime was with an optional stickier tire. Not sure the same advantage was afforded the 992...
Even on the stock P Zero's it's faster. The stickier pirellis it sat on gave it an extra 3 second edge.
The following users liked this post:
G650 (01-23-2020)
Old 03-14-2019, 04:47 AM
  #9  
K-A
Drifting
 
K-A's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 2,452
Received 139 Likes on 97 Posts
Default

Kinda starts to show how Porsche is really pushing the limits with these daily streets cars. Previous new generation Carrera S’s were often faster around tracks than most anything in the last generation 911’s stable. The 991.1 Carrera S obliterated the 997.2 GTS around any track and probably would hold its own with a 997.2 GT3 4.0 (I think it even put up better numbers in several cases thanks to the PDK and chassis workings). The 991.2 GTS holding a faster time than the 992 S track time/s, granted that would hold with the same tires, is a big change from how some prior new-gen S’s performed compared to their predecessors.
Old 03-14-2019, 10:10 AM
  #10  
chuckbdc
Race Car
 
chuckbdc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Maryland USA
Posts: 3,591
Received 322 Likes on 194 Posts
Default

Time comparisons between two cars under reasonably controlled conditions, that is, with equivalent drivers, equipment (especially tires), under similar environmental conditions are the only ones that matter.
The following users liked this post:
Traind (11-27-2020)
Old 01-22-2020, 12:10 AM
  #11  
pbeezy
Rennlist Member
 
pbeezy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 119
Received 105 Likes on 41 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Sebvelez
This is the info that I have found from Motor Authority:

”Speaking on Thursday during a drive event for the redesigned 2020 Porsche 911 Carrera S, a Porsche spokesman revealed the car will lap the Nürburgring in a time of 7:25, which makes it a full 5.0 seconds faster than the previous-generation Carrera S.”

link: https://www.motorauthority.com/news/...n-previous-gen
Just curious, has Stuttgart released a video confirming this time? I've seen the Sport Auto 7:30 on YouTube but haven't seen anything more.
Old 01-22-2020, 02:40 AM
  #12  
Doug H
Nordschleife Master
 
Doug H's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Destin, Nashville, In a 458 Challenge
Posts: 5,128
Received 905 Likes on 532 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Psorcery
Even on the stock P Zero's it's faster. The stickier pirellis it sat on gave it an extra 3 second edge.
I would think R compounds would be good for more than 3 seconds on a long course. I used to see about 2 seconds on shorter courses in the 1 1/2 to 2 minute range and 3 seconds on tracks like VIR.

There are a couple of 992 laps edging out the 991.2 GTS at this track:

https://fastestlaps.com/tracks/circu...gny-cours-club

Last edited by Doug H; 01-22-2020 at 02:56 AM.
The following users liked this post:
G650 (01-23-2020)
Old 01-22-2020, 02:44 AM
  #13  
Doug H
Nordschleife Master
 
Doug H's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Destin, Nashville, In a 458 Challenge
Posts: 5,128
Received 905 Likes on 532 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by pbeezy
Just curious, has Stuttgart released a video confirming this time? I've seen the Sport Auto 7:30 on YouTube but haven't seen anything more.
Doesn't Christian Gebhart tend to run a little slower than the factory drivers. He is good for comparing his on times in different cars, but not so much with other drivers or factory drivers.
The following users liked this post:
G650 (01-23-2020)
Old 01-22-2020, 03:18 AM
  #14  
Doug H
Nordschleife Master
 
Doug H's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Destin, Nashville, In a 458 Challenge
Posts: 5,128
Received 905 Likes on 532 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by K-A
Kinda starts to show how Porsche is really pushing the limits with these daily streets cars. Previous new generation Carrera S’s were often faster around tracks than most anything in the last generation 911’s stable. The 991.1 Carrera S obliterated the 997.2 GTS around any track and probably would hold its own with a 997.2 GT3 4.0 (I think it even put up better numbers in several cases thanks to the PDK and chassis workings). The 991.2 GTS holding a faster time than the 992 S track time/s, granted that would hold with the same tires, is a big change from how some prior new-gen S’s performed compared to their predecessors.
Haha, there you go again. The 991.1 S better lap times than the 997.2 GT3 RS 4.0?!?!?!?!?! Where do you get this stuff?


The 997.2 GT3 RS 4.0 beat the 991 GT3 RS and TOASTED the 991.1 S by over 6 seconds at Laguna Seca.

https://fastestlaps.com/tracks/laguna-seca-post-1988


The 997.2 GT3 RS 4.0 was faster than the 992 and the 991.2 GTS here:

https://fastestlaps.com/tracks/circu...gny-cours-club


The regular 997.2 GT3 RS (non 4.0) posted 7:33 compared to the 991.1 S's 7:37.9 and the 991.2's 7:34 at Ring.
Old 01-23-2020, 10:30 PM
  #15  
pbeezy
Rennlist Member
 
pbeezy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 119
Received 105 Likes on 41 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Doug H
Doesn't Christian Gebhart tend to run a little slower than the factory drivers. He is good for comparing his on times in different cars, but not so much with other drivers or factory drivers.
He put up both the 7:24 for the 991.2 GTS and the 7:30 for the 992S. I don’t think he is slower than factory drivers, I think the sport auto support team doesn’t have the resources that a factory team does.

What I can’t figure out is where/what is the official Porsche factory Nurburgring time? The 7:25 was unofficial but surely if they could score that time, they’d have uploaded an official video of it. Is it possible they can’t hit 7:25 and that’s why there is no Porsche factory video yet? Or maybe it’s out there and I’ve missed it.


Quick Reply: 992 Nurburgring Lap Time Thread



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 06:00 AM.