PCCB in wet cold weather - PSA
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I had PCCBs on my dailys for the last 6+ years through PNW winters, and I did not understand what people were talking about when they said PCCBs were difficult/dangerous in cold wet weather. At most, I got slightly reduced braking for the first 5ft-6ft of brake application after driving for a while in the rain/snow, and it was easy to compensate for with just pressing the pedal stronger.
Now, after driving the car through deep snow for 6 hours, my brakes are "cursed" - every time I drive in the wet, brakes barely slow down the car for the first 30ft or more, no matter how hard I press. To make it worse, sometimes one wheel dries up before others and the brakes grab suddenly, violently jerking the car to one side - not something anyone would want to experience when braking in the wet. I had to countersteer a couple of times already. I guess it's some kind of contaminant on the rotors or corrosion on the pads that's causing this. What's very odd is that I never had this before in so many years. I'll see if I can burn or clean this off.
But if your PCCB is acting like this in wet cold weather - the good news is that it's not normal. I had this very car for over two years now, and it just started doing it.
Now, after driving the car through deep snow for 6 hours, my brakes are "cursed" - every time I drive in the wet, brakes barely slow down the car for the first 30ft or more, no matter how hard I press. To make it worse, sometimes one wheel dries up before others and the brakes grab suddenly, violently jerking the car to one side - not something anyone would want to experience when braking in the wet. I had to countersteer a couple of times already. I guess it's some kind of contaminant on the rotors or corrosion on the pads that's causing this. What's very odd is that I never had this before in so many years. I'll see if I can burn or clean this off.
But if your PCCB is acting like this in wet cold weather - the good news is that it's not normal. I had this very car for over two years now, and it just started doing it.
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Thanks for sharing, have the full PCCB on a Cayenne Turbo and they do exactly as you outlined. Squeal and not much stopping power when you back out (if wet/cold), or pull forward for a few feet. But quickly revert back to the normal behavior. Have never used them in consistent snow, so couldnt comment on if that has happened across other setups.
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Like track pads for iron rotors, PCCB rely mainly on transfer friction rather than abrasive friction. For transfer friction to be effective, a layer of transferred pad material needs to be evenly deposited on the rotor.
I am thinking that you might have lost that transfer layer. I suggest you do a pad bedding procedure to get back that transfer layer. Bedding procedures can be found with a simple google search.
I am thinking that you might have lost that transfer layer. I suggest you do a pad bedding procedure to get back that transfer layer. Bedding procedures can be found with a simple google search.
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I think this must be a normal characteristic because I too have had some reduced braking on my PCCB's in cold wet weather. You hit the brakes and the first 1-2 seconds it feels like the brakes aren't catching and then it does. I have also found that a harder press on the pedal gets the car to stop but it is a bit unnerving..
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I think this must be a normal characteristic because I too have had some reduced braking on my PCCB's in cold wet weather. You hit the brakes and the first 1-2 seconds it feels like the brakes aren't catching and then it does. I have also found that a harder press on the pedal gets the car to stop but it is a bit unnerving..
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