992 Turbo S vs. 765LT (Dragy Street Results)
04-11-2022, 08:36 PM
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All great discussions....I do think that IC's and cats would unlock some serious potential and also help with heat soak. As for the numbers, I can't comment on magazine test results, all I can tell you is that my numbers are real world, no BS, no filter, no adjustment, numbers. If you live in the DFW area, on real streets, in these temps, with no weight reduction, no special prep (stock tire pressures, etc....), then this is what you should expect.
Peter
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04-11-2022, 09:36 PM
#62
That's just real world numbers for you.
04-11-2022, 09:41 PM
#63
Well said. All I know is my data is real world, no smoke. No preparation by running fuel to 0, dropping tire pressures, adding race gas, waiting until it's negative DA....just real world daily driver stuff. Take that for what it's worth.
Peter
Peter
Yes those are the numbers. The tts have a very impressive 0-60 time due to its 4ed system, but it is also a heavy car. I know some seem to think that it is this magic machine that rhns from everything. But reality is that a lot of the exotics and other sports cars will outrun it from a roll. Three weeks ago I was on the Autobahn in the 488 Spider, and a 992 TTS came up besides me. We had just entered an 80 km/h zone of about 800 meters, so we were just rolling and checking each others cars out. He signalled that he wanted to race, and when the road became unrestricted, he honked three times and we went for it. It wasn't even close, as soon as we nailed it, he was in my mirrors. I ran to about 280 and he just kept falling back. Mind you the 488 is not even close to the 765 and yet it still has the legs on the 992 tts from a roll.
That's just real world numbers for you.
That's just real world numbers for you.
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Il CP (04-12-2022)
04-11-2022, 11:46 PM
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Yes those are the numbers. The tts have a very impressive 0-60 time due to its 4ed system, but it is also a heavy car. I know some seem to think that it is this magic machine that rhns from everything. But reality is that a lot of the exotics and other sports cars will outrun it from a roll. Three weeks ago I was on the Autobahn in the 488 Spider, and a 992 TTS came up besides me. We had just entered an 80 km/h zone of about 800 meters, so we were just rolling and checking each others cars out. He signalled that he wanted to race, and when the road became unrestricted, he honked three times and we went for it. It wasn't even close, as soon as we nailed it, he was in my mirrors. I ran to about 280 and he just kept falling back. Mind you the 488 is not even close to the 765 and yet it still has the legs on the 992 tts from a roll.
That's just real world numbers for you.
That's just real world numbers for you.
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04-12-2022, 10:36 AM
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Agreed. TTS will do anything and be a better daily, wknd, track, all around for half the price.
spend a little on mods, and you have a match for the 765 in every way.
two very different cars IMO, for different reasons.
Nothing against the more exotic cars, just different.
Agreed. TTS will do anything and be a better daily, wknd, track, all around for half the price.
spend a little on mods, and you have a match for the 765 in every way.
two very different cars IMO, for different reasons.
Nothing against the more exotic cars, just different.
04-12-2022, 03:14 PM
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One of my dailies is a 2001 Silverado Z71 with a built 6L (ported heads, monster cam) pushing poisoned fumes out equal length 1 7/8" headers through 3" collectors to a merged 4" culvert pipe of an exhaust that dumps before the rear axle echo chamber. "Loud" is subjective lol
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04-12-2022, 08:29 PM
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FINALLY installed the tune. First the results:
0-60: 2.49 best (2.34 with 1ft roll out)
60-130: 5.67s (stock Hail Mary, which means I couldn't reproduce it again, was 6.65s, avg I was seeing stock was 6.8-7.0)
100-150: 6.68 (stock Hail Mary was 6.95s, avg I was seeing 7.5-7.8)
1/4 Mile: 10.01@@138.61 (stock Hail Mary was 10.16@136.41, avg I was seeing was 10.3-10.4@132 ish)
1/2 Mile: 15.79 was quickest ET, 170.02 was fastest mph (stock Hail Mary was 16.02@166.89, avg was 16.5@157-160 ish)
Overall I'm very happy with the tune, I haven't put together an ideal run yet, only had time/space to do 2 runs and car heat soaked and it was game over after those 2 runs). I'll try again in near future.
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0-60: 2.49 best (2.34 with 1ft roll out)
60-130: 5.67s (stock Hail Mary, which means I couldn't reproduce it again, was 6.65s, avg I was seeing stock was 6.8-7.0)
100-150: 6.68 (stock Hail Mary was 6.95s, avg I was seeing 7.5-7.8)
1/4 Mile: 10.01@@138.61 (stock Hail Mary was 10.16@136.41, avg I was seeing was 10.3-10.4@132 ish)
1/2 Mile: 15.79 was quickest ET, 170.02 was fastest mph (stock Hail Mary was 16.02@166.89, avg was 16.5@157-160 ish)
Overall I'm very happy with the tune, I haven't put together an ideal run yet, only had time/space to do 2 runs and car heat soaked and it was game over after those 2 runs). I'll try again in near future.
Peter
04-12-2022, 10:11 PM
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04-12-2022, 10:21 PM
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^^
Agreed. TTS will do anything and be a better daily, wknd, track, all around for half the price.
spend a little on mods, and you have a match for the 765 in every way.
two very different cars IMO, for different reasons.
Nothing against the more exotic cars, just different.
Agreed. TTS will do anything and be a better daily, wknd, track, all around for half the price.
spend a little on mods, and you have a match for the 765 in every way.
two very different cars IMO, for different reasons.
Nothing against the more exotic cars, just different.
Yes you can tune it and make it accelerate as fast as a 488, F8, 720S or 765, but you will also void the warranty. For many that will be a deal breaker and you are not comparing stock vs. stock. If you spend the coin to make a TTS run with a 765, what would happen if you did that to a 720S or F8? Put a pair of Pure turbos on one of the Ferrari tt V8's or McLaren mills, and it's a different game again.
Not trying to create a huge argument over which is best, just saying it's a bit of apples and oranges, especially when you throw modifications into the mix.
04-12-2022, 10:33 PM
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Different cars and different objectives. It's a matter of personal opinion of course. For me an F8 or 488 is as good a daily as a TTS, and as a weekend fun car or occasional track car, not even close to the redheads.
Yes you can tune it and make it accelerate as fast as a 488, F8, 720S or 765, but you will also void the warranty. For many that will be a deal breaker and you are not comparing stock vs. stock. If you spend the coin to make a TTS run with a 765, what would happen if you did that to a 720S or F8? Put a pair of Pure turbos on one of the Ferrari tt V8's or McLaren mills, and it's a different game again.
Not trying to create a huge argument over which is best, just saying it's a bit of apples and oranges, especially when you throw modifications into the mix.
Yes you can tune it and make it accelerate as fast as a 488, F8, 720S or 765, but you will also void the warranty. For many that will be a deal breaker and you are not comparing stock vs. stock. If you spend the coin to make a TTS run with a 765, what would happen if you did that to a 720S or F8? Put a pair of Pure turbos on one of the Ferrari tt V8's or McLaren mills, and it's a different game again.
Not trying to create a huge argument over which is best, just saying it's a bit of apples and oranges, especially when you throw modifications into the mix.
Agreed...We could "If, and, and but" this to death.
I'll put a TTS up against just about anything for the best all around supercar. Just my opinion. Don't see too many F8's / 488's in the snow and ice getting traction like many do with AWD 911's.
At the level that ANY of these cars are on track, in 99% of the cases, the only thing that would separate lap times among them would be the size of the nut sack of the owner / drive and how willing they are to hang it out there for a lap time. Or how willing someone is to Wad their car up for a lap time. Not many Pro drivers out there buying these and tracking them to hurt others feelings. lol
Anyway... As you were. I love them all and would own one of each, but sadly I'm NOT in the crowd that can afford any of these... I'm blessed to have stretched to own my slightly modded 991.2TTS...But it hauls the mail in the mountains and on track quite well. Hung with my friend in his 991 GT2RS around AMP (who also has a 488) but like said, neither of us are will to drive them on the edge and he's a multi multi millionaire.
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04-12-2022, 10:39 PM
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From a pure speed perspective the F8/488 and Mclaren's might beat out a 992 TTS. But, from a dig, the Porsche will get them off the line because of AWD. The Porsche will out handle and out brake them on the track too.
Its also the heaviest which attests to how sick a car it really is to be that fast, handle that well and brake that quickly when compared to cars hundreds of pounds lighter. Throw in some rain or any snow and its a non issue, the 992 will beat anything out there. While none of them are the best at everything, the 992 is the best at almost everything, which makes it the ultimate supercar for now..
Its also the heaviest which attests to how sick a car it really is to be that fast, handle that well and brake that quickly when compared to cars hundreds of pounds lighter. Throw in some rain or any snow and its a non issue, the 992 will beat anything out there. While none of them are the best at everything, the 992 is the best at almost everything, which makes it the ultimate supercar for now..
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Big Swole (04-12-2022)
04-13-2022, 05:00 PM
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Looks like $1495 plus shipping.
If I end up keeping the TTS I'll probably do cats plus the M Engineering tune. Probably will hold off on the PDK tune because I'm not big on the idea of sending it in.
If I end up keeping the TTS I'll probably do cats plus the M Engineering tune. Probably will hold off on the PDK tune because I'm not big on the idea of sending it in.
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