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Old 12-23-2020, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by MaxLTV
These are new PZeros (PZ4 NA, or something like 1.5 generations newer than what was on 991.2) which may actually be better than MPS4S, so don't rush to get rid of them. Pirelli nearly caught up to MPS4S with PZ4 generation and the "NA" version is supposed to be another (half)step up. I hate how Pirelli keeps the same name and does not provide any info about tire model changes but they do improve tires meanwhile quite a bit.
It's N0, which simply means the tire is specifically designed for a given Porsche vehicle.
Old 12-23-2020, 10:56 PM
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I havent been on P Zeros since 2015 and sure they have reformulated for the better. Just love how predictable MP4Ss are at the limit and in the wet.

Bottom line, PZeros, me and the TT need a good track day to show themselves..this car is gonna be a joy, I can already feel it.
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Originally Posted by CanAutM3
It's N0, which simply means the tire is specifically designed for a given Porsche vehicle.
No, it's NA1. Specifically, the review cars had 255/35R20 93Y and 315/30R21 105Y Pirelli P Zero NA1, which is supposed to be an update on the generic PZ4. The 991.2 had "P Zero N1", which were based on PZ3 and were one full generation behind P Zeros you'd get on most other cars the same year. Pirelli world is weird.
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Originally Posted by MaxLTV
No, it's NA1. Specifically, the review cars had 255/35R20 93Y and 315/30R21 105Y Pirelli P Zero NA1, which is supposed to be an update on the generic PZ4. The 991.2 had "P Zero N1", which were based on PZ3 and were one full generation behind P Zeros you'd get on most other cars the same year. Pirelli world is weird.
okay...this is good to know. NA1 is indeed a specific varation of the new P Zero as you said Max.

P ZERO™ (PZ4)

THE BEST PERFORMANCE IN ALL CONDITIONS

P ZERO™ (PZ4) is the unique Ultra High Performance product combining Pirelli's knowledge gained from competitive Motorsport with Pirelli's alliance with the top car manufacturers, granting the perfect fit for the performance of each car. P ZERO™ (PZ4) has a range developed with the most prestigious OEMs that is able to meet any customisation needs in terms of size, technology and seasonality.


A milestone in the development of the Pirelli range, P ZERO™ (PZ4) has been chosen as original equipment for the most performance oriented and powerful models on the market. Its asymmetric tread pattern improves braking performance and enhances handling and control. Excellent in wet conditions with improved safety in potential aquaplaning situations. Its new nano-composite compound ensures maximum grip and stability. The structural integrity of the tyre improves steering response, which is essential in sports driving, and also ensures uniform tread wear. The special “s-shaped” grooves in the tread area deliver lower cabin noise levels, enhancing driver comfort.
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Originally Posted by MaxLTV
No, it's NA1. Specifically, the review cars had 255/35R20 93Y and 315/30R21 105Y Pirelli P Zero NA1, which is supposed to be an update on the generic PZ4. The 991.2 had "P Zero N1", which were based on PZ3 and were one full generation behind P Zeros you'd get on most other cars the same year. Pirelli world is weird.
Sorry, you are correct. I wrote my post in too much haste. What I meant is that tires that wear the Nxx designation are specifically built for a specific Porsche application. N0, N01 or NA1 simply mean a different Porsche model application for a given tire. It is the "4" in PZ4 that designates the generation of P-Zero, 4 as in 4th generation. That being said, more recent specific tire can very well have enhancements compared to older ones.

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Old 12-24-2020, 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Pad Bender
okay...this is good to know. NA1 is indeed a specific varation of the new P Zero as you said Max.
A specific variation specially designed and optimized for the 992TT/TTS .

Here's a good article on specific tires: https://motoiq.com/not-all-michelin-...ated-the-same/

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Originally Posted by rk-d
Wheels are interesting - Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but this is what I'm seeing: Porsche made the Exclusive wheels 1/2 wider, which means 1/4 inch, or 6mm, closer to the fender edge. Exclusives have an offset of ET44 and standard wheels offset is ET41. So the standard wheels are actually closer to the fender edge by 3mm.

Net effect is the Exclusive wheels sit out closer to the fender edge by about 3mm compared to stock wheels.

At the same time, the tire size is identical, despite Exclusives being a 1/2 wider wheel. So the tire stretches a little more which may make the sidewall a little shorter.

I think, at the end of the day, go with the wheel that looks best, b/c the fitment is so close between the wheels.

FWIW, your wheels look great with your overall design.
I wonder which wheels are lighter?
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Originally Posted by impex4
I wonder which wheels are lighter?
I'm gonna weigh my wheels next week when the winters go on.

They are forged as clearly stated in the configurator but weights seem elusive.
Old 12-24-2020, 12:01 PM
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Crappy cell phone video...more to come.


Will use a real mic next time...
You did th GPF delete? Do you and how much of a power (Horse power gain) do you get if any 🤔
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Originally Posted by Ivan Miller
You did th GPF delete? Do you and how much of a power (Horse power gain) do you get if any 🤔
North American vehicles have no GPF...i think its sound more than anything as apparently they did a pretty good job managing the flow with the GPF.
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Originally Posted by Pad Bender
North American vehicles have no GPF...i think its sound more than anything as apparently they did a pretty good job managing the flow with the GPF.
is that 100% confirmed? I was under the impression that all 992’s delivered worldwide include the device.
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Originally Posted by Scrappy1972
is that 100% confirmed? I was under the impression that all 992’s delivered worldwide include the device.
I have only the following information:
  • GPF is not listed on US and CAN features list and clearly listed on EU countries
  • Picture of US delivered TTS had no GPF on exhaust
  • US tuner say they have no GPF
Im gonna take a look under mine to snap a pick to make sure. Not really a big issue but it is important to know if you are considering aftermarket parts.

Tell me what you think?...credit to someone on this TT/TTS forum who took this excellent photo.





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Old 12-25-2020, 04:46 PM
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The NA models have the GPF canister and internal matrix but this doesn’t have the catalytic coatings the EU ones have. Take a look at this thread on matrix demolition https://rennlist.com/forums/718-gts-...talia-mod.html
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Originally Posted by Mercuriell
The NA models have the GPF canister and internal matrix but this doesn’t have the catalytic coatings the EU ones have. Take a look at this thread on matrix demolition https://rennlist.com/forums/718-gts-...talia-mod.html
Very interesting...im gonna get my car up on a lift with my mechanic to take a full look...thx


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