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Old 11-16-2020, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by sechsgang
Also if you want lower, Techart already has a set of springs for it (I know some folks had issues with other 992s but seems to be work aroundable now) and those definitely ride softer than spasm, given thats been the case on every car I've had them on previously.
That's what I was thinking too. If it really bugs me, I'm sure over time there will be plenty of ways to lower it if needed. My guess is it'll be just fine at standard height...
Old 11-16-2020, 03:29 PM
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Thank you for your first hand observations Bluehighways!
I remain optimistic the 992 TTS with PASM Sport will be "just right" for me in it's intended purpose.
The 991.2 TTS sat too high... It didn't inspire me visually, plus the odd time I had it on a track (PCA instructor) it felt like a lumbering school bus in the corners (...and an F-35 on full afterburner in the straights).
My GT3T wasn't too firm and it had great presence because of it's GT stance. Hoping the new PASM sport captures some of this, as this is what Porsche has intended.
Old 11-16-2020, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 1Gunner
Thank you for your first hand observations Bluehighways!
I remain optimistic the 992 TTS with PASM Sport will be "just right" for me in it's intended purpose.
The 991.2 TTS sat too high... It didn't inspire me visually, plus the odd time I had it on a track (PCA instructor) it felt like a lumbering school bus in the corners (...and an F-35 on full afterburner in the straights).
My GT3T wasn't too firm and it had great presence because of it's GT stance. Hoping the new PASM sport captures some of this, as this is what Porsche has intended.
I'd agree with this. I think the SPASM will be right for people that want their TTS a little lower and sportier. If you have a GT3RS and are getting a TTS as a daily in addition, maybe you just take it without SPASM. This is a very personal decision. I would lean towards SPASM as i had one before albeit in a CS, and it is a Porsche after all.

Having said that, I am hesitant to lower my current TT and stiffen it, as its my DD. But I may go with SPASM and lift on the new 992 - when that happens. Go figure

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Old 11-21-2020, 12:03 AM
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I had to order it. Lower the car is the better for me. Opposite with skirts... cant be high enough unless it's my wife.

I have a 17' R8 and it has settings to allow me to put it in a comfort mode for long drives where I wanted comfort from a softer ride. Does the PASM not have a softer setting?
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Old 11-22-2020, 10:15 PM
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Ferrari has a Bumpy road feature.... works great.
Old 11-23-2020, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by 997usa
Ferrari has a Bumpy road feature.... works great.
The Ferrari bumpy road feature works great. You leave the mannetino in Sport and then select the "bumpy road" button (image of a shock absorber on a button). Use it all the time. You have to spec the MH shocks/suspension but it's pretty cool. At least on a 16 California T HS.

Is there a button / adjustment to soften PASM?
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Originally Posted by SB27
Is there a button / adjustment to soften PASM?
By definition PASM (Porsche Active Suspension Management) is an adaptive suspension and the stiffness/response of the dampers is adjusted through the mode dial on the steering wheel (Normal/Sport/Sport+).

My understanding is that the Sport PASM is simply a sportier version of the suspension with shorter and stiffer springs that provide a lower ride height and a recalibration of the PASM for those higher spring rates.
Old 11-27-2020, 06:27 PM
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Does anyone know if the ride height with SPASM on the 992 is the same as the ride height of SPASM on the 991? I am just confused since SPASM used to be a 20mm drop. Now it's 10mm.(because PASM is now standard) Does a non spasm stock 992 have the same ride height (angle of attack etc..) as the Stock non pasm 991? Just trying to figure out how much ground clearance SPASM on 992 has? Also do you guys think there is a benefit to having SPASM with a manual or no difference?

Thanks in advance
Old 11-28-2020, 03:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Edmac
I have the SPASM on my car and TBH I wouldn't have specced it if I realised how much stiffer it is. Saying that, many of the roads in my area are pretty rough but the car rides well on smooth roads.
Do you have a 992? I'm hoping some of us can be the guinea pigs and help inform others on the forum before they place orders. I value the opinions of people here more than whatever a journalist decided to write in their review.

Originally Posted by SB27
The Ferrari bumpy road feature works great. You leave the mannetino in Sport and then select the "bumpy road" button (image of a shock absorber on a button). Use it all the time. You have to spec the MH shocks/suspension but it's pretty cool. At least on a 16 California T HS.

Is there a button / adjustment to soften PASM?
My F12 has the MH suspension and the bumpy road switch helps bit - but it still rides more firmly than my 991.2 TTS did. And the F12 is supposed to be a "GT" car.

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Does anyone know if the ride height with SPASM on the 992 is the same as the ride height of SPASM on the 991? I am just confused since SPASM used to be a 20mm drop. Now it's 10mm.(because PASM is now standard) Does a non spasm stock 992 have the same ride height (angle of attack etc..) as the Stock non pasm 991? Just trying to figure out how much ground clearance SPASM on 992 has? Also do you guys think there is a benefit to having SPASM with a manual or no difference?

Thanks in advance
They used to have both PASM and SPASM as options, so it was a 10mm drop for PASM and 10mm more for SPASM starting from the standard ride height of the base car. At some point, all the 911s got PASM standard (was that 991.2?), and the SPASM option remained as 10mm drop from standard PASM. My 991.2 C4S had SPASM and it was just ever so slightly too firm for daily use on bumpy roads - but just slightly - not worth complaining about.

There wasn't a SPASM option offered for my 991.2 TTS and I found it to be too soft - and I didn't like the look riding so high. I rarely needed the front-axle-lift (FAL) and could have skipped that option. I understand why so many people went with aftermarket suspension gear on the 991.2 TTS.

I find it interesting that they now offer SPASM on the 992TTS. I ordered my 992 TTS with both SPASM (and FAL). I hope it's not as mama bear soft as my 991.2 TTS was. But I also hope it's not TOO papa bear firm.




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Default Video of Turbo S without S-PASM

I don’t know if you will find this useful or not, but this is a video that my dealer took of my car, which I picked up a few days ago. My SA advised me to not get the S-PASM as he said the ride is much rougher with it. You can see what my car looks like and decide if you think you would want a car lower in height than mine.

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So, I'll have to close my 992 T/S spec list soon, and as expected the PASM vs SPASM is giving me a headache..
It's the: SPASM + wheels on comfort pressures VS PASM ...

Until now, has anyone driven same car with those two different options? And, who knows, in the UK? What would you advise?
I obviously want the -10mm like everyone else, but if SPASM truly is a lot stiffer (even on wheels with comfort pressures) than PASM, then ..

Also, just by looking at the wheel gap, can you tell me if the two cars below have PASM or SPASM?
- https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=...25297198957768
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Old 05-29-2021, 01:07 AM
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Have spasm took delivery feb…I run comfort pressure up here in maine where the roads are pretty rough…no problem at all!!!,,,its one of my favorite things about tts…i actually like it better with the pdcc button pushed …not really stiffer damps the bumps out nicely…get it!!!!
Old 05-29-2021, 03:32 AM
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400 miles with PASM sport and I like it. It normal mode the car feels soft. In Sport Plus it feels perfect to my tastes.
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Old 05-29-2021, 12:23 PM
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Also, made a more technical post regarding PASM vs SPASM here:
https://rennlist.com/forums/992-turb...992-tts-3.html
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Drove two 2022 Turbo S back-to-back yesterday, one with SPASM and the other without. The ride quality in the non-SPASM car is markedly better. I personally don't see the value of SPASM in a road car - the limits are so high anyway, why degrade everyday comfort? YMMV.
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