BAT & GT3 prices: a study in manipulation by chicagomarketing
While I appreciated the OP of basically confirming what everyone thought was happening...350 million people in the US ish and 3 or 4000 cars. Capitalism will prevail. It just sucks for those of us on the fringe that don't want to pay the markup lol
excluding taxes, my gt3 ownership currently is cheaper than my lexus which i got at a discount off msrp.
It's not the KEY objective, but obviously a preferred objective. The best value retention I think are 992.1 GT3 manuals, and the 991.X RSs, but alas I am not in love with the looks of the 992.1 GT3, and I am lusting after a manual GT car, hence 992 manual it is. Every time I drive my manual f83 M4, I just love the manual experience, to the point I can't imagine replacing it with anything else. I hope to find the same with the 992.1 GT3 6-speed, and if I keep it for the long term, then value retention becomes more of a moot point.
I prefer the 992 (.1 or .2) looks and I only wanted a manual. Once the 992.2 details and pricing came out and there was still ADM I thought the 992.1 provided a better value as there was $20k increase in MSRP from 2022 - 2024 then the big jump with the 2025 MY.
It is pretty obvious the market is artificially inflated. @chicagomarketing just put the pieces together to show how it is done. Here are some data points, there are 133 992 GT3's for sale within 300 miles of my location, only one is private party. Of the 66 2025 or newer GT3's 32 of them have less than 200 miles and 26 of those are delivery miles. All of them are at dealers and a significant portion are at the dealers mentioned by Chicago (Eurocar, Porsche Bakersfield, etc).
There are 92 G80 M3's for sale within the same distance. So now we have more GT3's for sale than M3's for the same production years in the same region.
Why does this matter? Dealers have artificially inflated GT3 prices by posting a significant number of false sales through auction sites and then grabbed up every available GT3 on the market and listed them with the justification that the artificial prices are the market. That is not the market, that is price fixing.
There are 92 G80 M3's for sale within the same distance. So now we have more GT3's for sale than M3's for the same production years in the same region.
Why does this matter? Dealers have artificially inflated GT3 prices by posting a significant number of false sales through auction sites and then grabbed up every available GT3 on the market and listed them with the justification that the artificial prices are the market. That is not the market, that is price fixing.
you get it all back when you sell. trying to get the hottest car below market price prob would cost you either the ownership experience or you will end up paying more to get the car right
excluding taxes, my gt3 ownership currently is cheaper than my lexus which i got at a discount off msrp.
excluding taxes, my gt3 ownership currently is cheaper than my lexus which i got at a discount off msrp.
Your assuming the market will never crash... .. It is the hottest car until it isn't. What if engine issues pop up like the 991.1, Then you become the red headed stepchild really fast.
Ya, I get it.
I prefer the 992 (.1 or .2) looks and I only wanted a manual. Once the 992.2 details and pricing came out and there was still ADM I thought the 992.1 provided a better value as there was $20k increase in MSRP from 2022 - 2024 then the big jump with the 2025 MY.
I prefer the 992 (.1 or .2) looks and I only wanted a manual. Once the 992.2 details and pricing came out and there was still ADM I thought the 992.1 provided a better value as there was $20k increase in MSRP from 2022 - 2024 then the big jump with the 2025 MY.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...t3-touring-46/
I don’t typically talk much about overpriced cars these days as much as I once did….this can’t be a real sale, nor can this lunatic paying 515k for a whatever 997.2 3rs
two absolutely next level idiotic purchases
he could have walked in and gotten a 992.2 gt3 pts with all the same options but 5 years newer with a sticker that’s 100k more for the same price. No one is that stupid
funny how it came from wob given he chimed in here with an absolute novel, he could personally introduce me to this lunatic buyer with the check he paid with and I still wouldn’t believe it to be legitimate.
I don’t typically talk much about overpriced cars these days as much as I once did….this can’t be a real sale, nor can this lunatic paying 515k for a whatever 997.2 3rs
two absolutely next level idiotic purchases
he could have walked in and gotten a 992.2 gt3 pts with all the same options but 5 years newer with a sticker that’s 100k more for the same price. No one is that stupid
funny how it came from wob given he chimed in here with an absolute novel, he could personally introduce me to this lunatic buyer with the check he paid with and I still wouldn’t believe it to be legitimate.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...t3-touring-46/
I don’t typically talk much about overpriced cars these days as much as I once did….this can’t be a real sale, nor can this lunatic paying 515k for a whatever 997.2 3rs
two absolutely next level idiotic purchases
he could have walked in and gotten a 992.2 gt3 pts with all the same options but 5 years newer with a sticker that’s 100k more for the same price. No one is that stupid
funny how it came from wob given he chimed in here with an absolute novel, he could personally introduce me to this lunatic buyer with the check he paid with and I still wouldn’t believe it to be legitimate.
I don’t typically talk much about overpriced cars these days as much as I once did….this can’t be a real sale, nor can this lunatic paying 515k for a whatever 997.2 3rs
two absolutely next level idiotic purchases
he could have walked in and gotten a 992.2 gt3 pts with all the same options but 5 years newer with a sticker that’s 100k more for the same price. No one is that stupid
funny how it came from wob given he chimed in here with an absolute novel, he could personally introduce me to this lunatic buyer with the check he paid with and I still wouldn’t believe it to be legitimate.
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