Originally Posted by welikethetrack

I daily my 992 GT3RS for 6+ months now since I got it, I daily'd my last GT4 manual for 2+ years, I daily'd my 991.2 GT3rs for 3 years. Normal GT3's are a more than fine, anyone that says it can't be a DD is not an enthusiast imo and leaning more towards the C&C crowd.

I can't drive boring cars. 992 carrera S is a total snoozer tbh.

Get the GT3 and DD it. You will not regret it. I myself will be DD'ing a 992.2 GT3 manual by around years end as well.

Originally Posted by boxernz

Many thanks for your feedback @Shem_one, @Apolo1, and @DucatiV4S.
Updating the current count of feedback on the GT3's suitability as a daily driver below:

Originally Posted by Wilder

I wouldn't make a decision on this kind of analysis.
The reality is that you have people of all ages who live in different environments, and use the car differently, on a variety of roads.
Also, the .2 suspension and steering is different from the .1 (more DD friendly), so perhaps you need to rely more on opinions from the very few who have taken delivery of a .2.
Lastly, like I mentioned before, nothing beats getting in the seat, even as a passenger, and feeling the car for yourself. Find someone to take you for a ride.

Originally Posted by Apolo1

This new Touring is no more harder to drive than what my TTS or GTS have been for road use, new GT3 is very comfy has a great Nav heated seats not to loud like ST, nice damping and EPAS feel not at all darty, 4 seats now take the kids along. You just have to pay attention to when the lift is needed as its is quite low at the front on some roads, the Pzero R is also a good wet weather Tyre in comparison to the Cup 2s. I have had a go in MT .2 GT3 Touring now. Its no ST nothing like, I didn’t really expect it to be looking at the early reviews,the ST drives and moves around like much older 911s, this new GT3.2 is very precise , also sound wise the ST is a lot louder and you hear way more tones. I dont think it’s fair to even compare this new GT3 to the St. The engine in the RS, and St and GT3 are all the same on paper at least, and yet they all drive completely different. The ST engine revs flare different and faster on up and down shifts and sounds way harder than the GT3 one. I am 300 miles in now to my Touring and done around 700 mile s in other new GT3 cars, this Touring is going to be great for what its designed for ie comfortable Touring with the sounds and feel that only the GT cars give. Can not wait to put some miles on it, i know from my friends green car that it will get louder as the miles go on and the running in process is done.

I am not alone with this view either i know to other owners of STs that have taken delivery of new Touring and are of the same opinion. Great fun car to drive I could not be any more happier with it, new seats very comfortable.

Originally Posted by Wilder

I wouldn't make a decision on this kind of analysis.
The reality is that you have people of all ages who live in different environments, and use the car differently, on a variety of roads.
Also, the .2 suspension and steering is different from the .1 (more DD friendly), so perhaps you need to rely more on opinions from the very few who have taken delivery of a .2.
Lastly, like I mentioned before, nothing beats getting in the seat, even as a passenger, and feeling the car for yourself. Find someone to take you for a ride.

Originally Posted by Apolo1

This new Touring is no more harder to drive than what my TTS or GTS have been for road use, new GT3 is very comfy has a great Nav heated seats not to loud like ST, nice damping and EPAS feel not at all darty, 4 seats now take the kids along. You just have to pay attention to when the lift is needed as its is quite low at the front on some roads, the Pzero R is also a good wet weather Tyre in comparison to the Cup 2s. I have had a go in MT .2 GT3 Touring now. Its no ST nothing like, I didn’t really expect it to be looking at the early reviews,the ST drives and moves around like much older 911s, this new GT3.2 is very precise , also sound wise the ST is a lot louder and you hear way more tones. I dont think it’s fair to even compare this new GT3 to the St. The engine in the RS, and St and GT3 are all the same on paper at least, and yet they all drive completely different. The ST engine revs flare different and faster on up and down shifts and sounds way harder than the GT3 one. I am 300 miles in now to my Touring and done around 700 mile s in other new GT3 cars, this Touring is going to be great for what its designed for ie comfortable Touring with the sounds and feel that only the GT cars give. Can not wait to put some miles on it, i know from my friends green car that it will get louder as the miles go on and the running in process is done.

I am not alone with this view either i know to other owners of STs that have taken delivery of new Touring and are of the same opinion. Great fun car to drive I could not be any more happier with it, new seats very comfortable.

Originally Posted by boxernz

Thank you for your remarks @Wilder. I concur with your points. Not everyone has common driving circumstances and the 992.2 GT3 Touring should be more suitable than the 992.1 edition based on the respective designs. The 992.2 GT3 is not yet being delivered in my geography and I currently have one of the last Cayman GTS 4.0 cars being manufactured for me in manual in the next two months or so with delivery expected before year-end, so that is the next daily driver. However, with the available set of manual (and, ideally, normally-aspirated) cars shrinking fast, I'm contemplating what might replace the CGTS4.0 before all of the manual (and, ideally N/A) cars cease to exist forever.... So I will definitely look at/try a .2 when the opportunity arises. Hearing real-world feedback from current/past GT3 drivers around usability away from the track is helpful, because dealing with driveways, occasional parking building ramps, and wet roads is definitely part of the deal. Against that, all of the positives of the car sound like strong positives in my view so far.

Originally Posted by boxernz

Thank you @Apolo1. It is very helpful to hear about the .2 car and confirm the areas of improvement, such as the improved steering reaction. Front axle lift does sound like a must-have (and it is standard equipment in my geography in any event).

Originally Posted by boxernz

Hi all

I am seeking genuine/informed feedback from GT3 drivers on the merits (or otherwise) of the 992.2 GT3 Touring as a daily driver. I'm happy to hear from 992.1 and wing-car drivers as well.

Obviously, the GT3 is a track-inspired road car and compromises are involved, but it seems that Porsche has sought to address some criticisms of the 992.1 GT3 in road use (damping quality, tram lining, rear seats if you want them, etc) with the 992.2 facelift. However, there are many contradicting reviews about the suitability of the GT3 as a daily driver (involving motorway driving and slower, suburban driving in my case). I prefer a manual transmission, so gearbox choice is not a question.

In particular, please provide your views on:

1) Ground Clearance : Does ~100 mm (4 inches) of ground clearance cause grounding problems in real-world driving, involving speed humps, sloping driveways, and parking building ramps, etc. How well does the Front Axle Lift eliminate these problems (if any)?

2) Cabin Noise : I do accept higher cabin noise in a sports car, but does the 8% lower final drive and reduced noise insulation make the car noisy and tiresome on longer drives? I do a lot of motorway driving at around 60mph/100kph, and reviewers say the engine will be turning over at ~3000rpm at this speed.

3) Ride Quality: Again, I accept a firm ride in a sports car, but how much does the car require perfect roads to be enjoyed? And is the tram lining and excessive steering sensitivity reported in the 992.1 GT3 no longer present?

4) PCCB : Ignoring cost, would you recommend PCCB over conventional brakes? Ease of cleaning is attractive in the daily driving environment, but squealing (if they squeal) is less appealing.

5) Seats : I see merits in each of the available seat options. Ignoring cost, are the folding carbon fibre bucket seats comfortable and convenient for daily use?

Any and all comments welcome.

Thanks in advance.

Originally Posted by Apolo1

I used to daily all my GT cars going back to the 2003 996 GT3 RS and 996 GT2, they were not my only daily cars at time but they were used with no problems for school runs, the gym, football and the commute to work. Then in 2013 they introduced the PDK box this opened up the Gt cars to a much wider market . I would have absolutely no problem in using this new GT3 a daily in either PDK or stick shift the suspension and ride quality is IMO the best of any GT car to date. If i had a long trip down to Spain though i think i would rather be in GTS or TTS, or Cayenne. I get to pick my car up tomorrow from PPF my freind who does the work just sent me this. I am so excited have a drive planned on my Fav roads over the weekend.

Originally Posted by GT3Laguna

Oh man. Love this question. Simple answer part one is of course it depends. Part two: Yes a GT3 can be a great daily. I like to think I'm fairly qualified to answer because I've put 42K miles on my 2022 992 touring. I think I may be the miles world record holder? Outside of snow (which I would love to try!), I've driven this car in just about every scenario you can imagine - from pouring rain at Laguna Seca and Hwy 5, to Palomar Mtn in 100F, to paint shopping at Costco.

Few thoughts:
If you're not going to drive it HARD, regularly, you don't need a GT3. And likely will be happier in something like a Base or a T or a S. Sorry, that's my take. The magic of this car happens between 7-9K RPM and 0.6-1.1+ Gs. That means at least some track time and plenty of canyon carving. The high RPMs you can get almost anytime and is fun, but by itself isn't enough

Yes, the 992.1 can be a little darty, and rough riding. But I'm totally used to it now. I'm torn about the ST flash. I have no doubt it would make the car more comfortable for most driving, but I wonder if I'd sill prefer the .1 driving when closer to the limit. It's a weird thing, because sometimes (admittedly not that often) I wish my car had an even tighter feeling. Generally, when I'm on Track there's almost nothing that's screaming (or even whispering) to me that I wish this car had (OK, sometimes maybe a little more tire grip - I use the Goodyears which are a fantastic combo of grip, life, and daily usability, and power). BTW I contend there is never really a reason you need a daily driver with more than 500HP, and most people can't use more than that on track either.

Transmission: I'll probably get flamed for this but I can't imagine doing 41K miles, or even half that, in 3 years in a manual sports car. Sorry, there is absolutely nothing fun about shifting in a LA rush hour or any other kind of stop and go traffic. And on track there might be 1 in 100 people who can drive a manual close to a PDK. I'm a decent track driver but I have my hands plenty full just focusing on braking points, turn in, corner exit, etc, etc. PDK is magical on track. Don't get me wrong manual was all I drove until SMG and PDK came along. No doubt there are times I miss not having a manual sports car. But those times are dwarfed by the times I'm so glad I don't for a higher milage daily. And don't throw the engagement thing at me. Come drive with me and tell me I'm not "engaged." If this car was the fifth car in my garage, different story.

Some of your other questions. For a daily, lift is a must. With it, and just being a little careful, you'll almost never scrape, Cabin noise can get annoying. I did sound deadening and it's great. Regular brakes are fine and PCCB great - Personal preference. I got 18 ways seats. Buckets are great (and better) for track driving, but I can't imagine doing 40K miles in and out in them.

To answer a question some might be asking, the reason I drive my car all the time - vs say a Macan when I know I likely won't have a chance to push the car, is 1. because you never know, 2. because I like to really get to know my cars so that when the fun does arrive my familiarity with the car makes it even more fun, and 3. because although it's not enough IMHO this car has theater no matter where or how you're driving.

Originally Posted by abiazis

What would be interesting to see in respondents if they have or had both a GT3 and another modern 991 and up 911 model.

If they only have a GT3 or just one 911 non-GT3 as a daily, there always is some bias to justify their purchase, opinion, etc........one way or another.....the guys that have both would be a best feedback.

Would be interesting to see what percentage of GT3 owners have one, as their only 911 or as only daily....probably less than 25%.......

Originally Posted by abiazis

What would be interesting to see in respondents if they have or had both a GT3 and another modern 991 and up 911 model.

If they only have a GT3 or just one 911 non-GT3 as a daily, there always is some bias to justify their purchase, opinion, etc........one way or another.....the guys that have both would be a best feedback.

Would be interesting to see what percentage of GT3 owners have one, as their only 911 or as only daily....probably less than 25%.......