A 7:01 minute BTG lap in traffic is definitely a strong pace, no doubt about it! Jörg's factory record lap is roughly 6:50 minutes for the full 20.8 km, which convert to a 6:27 minute BTG lap. That means you're about 34 seconds slower than the factory pace.

I also did a 7:01, so I'm 24 seconds slower in my 992 GT3 compared to Lars' factory lap in the 992 GT3. Lars completed the full 20.8 km in 7 minutes, which roughly converts to about a 6:37 minute BTG lap.

The estimate is based on both our cars taking about 23 seconds from the gantry to the bridge (I've timed both my and Lars' cars, so the BTG estimate is actually quite accurate).

That was actually only my second time driving the GT3 at Nürburgring. There was also some moisture in the Kesselchen kink right in the middle of the hill, so it was impossible to keep the throttle pinned because of that. Haha, otherwise, I would have been under 7 minutes already on my second try. Unfortunately, there haven't been more runs for me since then, and ultimately, what limits the speed is how seldom I'm there.

I often ask people how many times they've driven their car to reach a time, as I find it really interesting. Obviously, spending a lot of time there quickly lowers the times. How many times have you driven your 992 GT3 RS there? Well driven, anyway!

 

Thanks Buddy for the kind Words!

 

Here you can see another video from the same days when I was at SPA. It shows in more detail how Jörg gently taps the brakes before BLANCIMONT 2 to deploy the wings for maximum aerodynamic grip, which means you can skip braking before BLANCIMONT 2.

If you watch my video on the same section, you'll see that I reach the same speeds as Jörg (though he has a passenger). Jörgs second lap in this video he reach higher speeds and thats the one i compare to.



However, I press the DRS button on the steering wheel here to raise the wings for maximum aerodynamics through BLANCIMONT 2. As I said, if you drive this way, you don't need to brake at all before BLANCIMONT 2, which is pretty cool because we're holding speeds of 244-247 km/h on the speedometer before BLANCIMONT 2.

Haha, Jörg even gave me the nickname "No Fear" after I maintained these speeds in the 992 GT3 RS loaner car, which I had never driven before. It was an incredibly fun and amazing event, and getting all the detailed info about the cars was extremely valuable.

If you haven't received the RS car you ordered, sign up for the Master RS event and drive as much and as boldly as you can. It's a really fun event now run by the Porsche Experience. The one we attended in April 2023 was their first *Master RS and it was perhaps something special because it was basically free driving from day one for two days. They obviously changed tires as soon as you needed new ones, it was full throttle for everyone, and it was unbelievably fun.

 

If I remember right, I calculated 992 GT3RS time extracting the "GTB" from the full 20.8km lap, and it was like 6:29, but I am not 100% sure about that. Very similar to what 991.2 GT2RS MR record car, did BTG.

Now funny story about my GT3RS, I sent my spec to the factory 18.08.2022 before noon, to secure the first bunch of allocations, my car was produced 12.2022 and it stayed with Porsche for that well-known DRS problem till the end of May 2023 !!!!

I got it delivered 27.05, .... 28.05 in the evening was PPF-ed and 28.05 at 21:00 local time I started driving to Nurburgring That is a 2000km drive for me, so I said, lets do the break-in and getting to Nring at the same time
29.05 I was at the Ring, I had an alignment at Manthey and went on the track 29 or 30,05 My very first lap, with a passenger, in TF traffic was 7:19... first ever lap on any track. My total experience was less than 200laps at that moment, maybe 170-180 laps with various cars, mainly //M and 911s

So coming back to ideas said above, the car is so easy to drive, anyone can squeeze up to 90% of its potential. Maybe 90-95% unlock will need some time and above that needs some skills, knowledge(to set-up the car) and courage.

I did 6:55 my best lap without even trying in the first days of ownership, as I did 6:59 with traffic, and I filled-up the tank to be sure I don't want to get back in... and what happened? I got back in As I saw the traffic being lower and lower ... My vbest is now 6:52 with Cup2R after 2 days of TF and 3 trackdays (but only one clean lap). My 6:55 was a slow lap and not close to some 7:01 and 6:59 lap.. but real conditions at the Ring differ a lot from what we wish for.

I guess I can cut 5-10 seconds this season, definitely 6:4x is possible as I have more experience with my car now.

To compare with a pro driver , some things aren't equal as you know::
- tire warmers I suppose have a big impact.
- open track, no worries about oil, coolant or accidents in front of you
- perhaps they don't care iff they will crash
- of course they are better and faster than us. But we also tend to consider them super heros, sometimes they show their limits, like any other human

The configuration of Nring changed a bit since GT3 to GT3RS record. (esp. that dip in Tiergarten), different drivers, days etc.. so even comparing the official records has to be adjusted a bit, GT3 maybe 1-2 seconds faster now.

But what I remember from manthey is they did 6:37 in their 992 gt3rs (nonMR).
Also that crazy lap of Alex Hardt 6:39 in a 991.2 GT3RS....
Few other 991.2 GT3RS going 6:45-6:49
Weird enough 992 gen don't show that many 6:4x yet... but I am sure this season there will be plenty

These is something I would compare our times with.
In the hand of an amateur like most of us here, the difference btw gt3 and RS is only marginal, the better driver will yield the faster laptimes.

Here is my 6:55 lap

 

Of course, I'm aware of all the advantages of the factory, the biggest of which, in my opinion, is the tire heating, as well as their constant laps around the track. Naturally, it’s harder for those of us who only get to the track once or maybe twice a year.

Your 6:55 BTG time would translate to about 28 seconds slower than the factory lap, is quite a reasonable estimate. I’m well aware of all the times down there, and it's often the case that those who get close to the factory times also frequent the track a lot and have made it their home circuit, which obviously makes things easier.

The closest I've gotten is 10 seconds slower than the factory's Porsche 981 GT4. I was then driving my stock 981 GT4 I also drove that car only twice at the Nürburgring.


Most decent hobby drivers should be able to be about 10 seconds slower than the factory times, regardless of the car. Beyond that, it becomes much harder, and one really needs to frequent the track to advance further.

I'll be watching your video this weekend, which will be exciting, and what would life be if we couldn't continue striving for lower lap times? Keep up the good work, sir. Personally, I think it will be a very long time before we see the 992 GT3 RS within 10 seconds of the factory time.
its just harder to get the maximum out if it also Due to things i mentioned in this thread.

A 6:27 minute BTG (Bridge to Gantry) time is pretty much the factory pace for a 992 GT3 RS. This is comparable to Jörg's full 20.8 km lap time of 6:50 minutes, which assumes the car covers the distance from the Gantry to the Bridge in 23 seconds.

So, when we hobby drivers clock in at 6:37 minutes in a 992 GT3 RS, we are about 10 seconds slower. Reaching this level will take time and not many will achieve it.

Achieving a time of 6:47 minutes BTG in a 992 GT3 RS, which is 20 seconds slower than Jörgs factory lap in 992 GT3 RS…….., will definitely be much more attainable for most and not at all that hard.

 

"I am sure that 2.41 Gs is at the banked Karussell at the Nürburgring.

I usually check my G-meter from a place where there isn't much banking, as the significant banking in the Karussell helps to increase the pressure on the G-meter."