992 GT3 Impressions (Manifold)
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while i miss the engine noise and drama in the 991.2 GT3, the new car flat out handles. The roads are pretty bumpy in some sections and yes I can say the complaints about the taut GT3 ride have some validity but for Pete’s sake, some context is needed. Yes the GT3 is highly strung but it’s not uncomfortable and it’s not skipping out of control on rough surfaces. Good god
still in the break-in period myself. But i will say the new engine is a lot smoother and quieter, IMHO. There seemed to be a lot more induction noise and mechanical whir and shriek on the 991.2 power plant. The new engine is so smooth there is no engine vibration or real noise until about 4000rpms.
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Did about 50 more miles in the GT3 today. Two things to note:
- The track display is much better than the five-gauge display, where two of the gauges are hidden behind the steering wheel.
- While the car wants a smooth turn in, you can definitely throw it around a bit once the car is loaded up in the corner.
My car has a couple rattles, and so does the 992 TTS. I wouldn't call it a build quality issue, but seems they need a better way to fasten things in the interior of the 992 cars.
- The track display is much better than the five-gauge display, where two of the gauges are hidden behind the steering wheel.
- While the car wants a smooth turn in, you can definitely throw it around a bit once the car is loaded up in the corner.
My car has a couple rattles, and so does the 992 TTS. I wouldn't call it a build quality issue, but seems they need a better way to fasten things in the interior of the 992 cars.
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My GT3 is at my local port, hopefully at dealership in the next couple days.
FWIW, I’m doing full PPF and my installer is going to put on a black Motorsport stripe and side model decals over the PPF before adding ceramic coating to everything. He’s using thicker PPF on the nose and rear quarter panels than the rest of the car, plus adding a second layer of matte black PPF just ahead of the rear wheels.
Probably gonna skip the section of the Motorsport stripe that goes on the roof since it’s the dark carbon fiber roof, so there isn’t enough contrast with the black decal.
The reason I’m doing the stripes/decals on top of the PPF is that I can have him remove them if I don’t like them, without pulling all the PPF off. And if the extra layer of PPF ahead of the rear wheels is because my last 911’s PPF in that area pretty quickly got pretty destroyed by typical road debris. So this way, I can have him pull that top layer, and replace it.
That’s the theory, at least. Will have to see how it works out.
FWIW, I’m doing full PPF and my installer is going to put on a black Motorsport stripe and side model decals over the PPF before adding ceramic coating to everything. He’s using thicker PPF on the nose and rear quarter panels than the rest of the car, plus adding a second layer of matte black PPF just ahead of the rear wheels.
Probably gonna skip the section of the Motorsport stripe that goes on the roof since it’s the dark carbon fiber roof, so there isn’t enough contrast with the black decal.
The reason I’m doing the stripes/decals on top of the PPF is that I can have him remove them if I don’t like them, without pulling all the PPF off. And if the extra layer of PPF ahead of the rear wheels is because my last 911’s PPF in that area pretty quickly got pretty destroyed by typical road debris. So this way, I can have him pull that top layer, and replace it.
That’s the theory, at least. Will have to see how it works out.
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Sounds good. Has anyone removed decals on top ppf? Does it lift with decal. I played with many renderings before the car arrived. I like the ppf over the them adds nice effect of gloss as well as looks and feels like clear coat over car/decal
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It was suggested to me to put decals under the PPF so that the decals are protected against damage. Of course, this does mean you need to be happy with the decals.
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I vote yes for stripes.
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It’s a risk for sure. OTOH, if I stick ‘em on underneath, and want to remove them, then there’s no chance at all of not needing to replace the PPF. Only way to avoid the risk is to not put them on.
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Please all chime in with YOUR impressions as well.
I'm particularly interested in comparisons of the 992 GT3 and 992 3RS from those who have driven both.
I'm particularly interested in comparisons of the 992 GT3 and 992 3RS from those who have driven both.
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Found it! It was well hidden. You'd think they'd put that right up front if they want the owner to follow the break in guidelines. And I don't know why my dealer didn't know and told me 5k rpm, since they delivered several of these before mine.
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Did another ~50 miles this morning. Some observations and thoughts:
- I still think the car is fantastic. I love it.
- The car doesn't need more torque or power. For what this car is, the power is plenty.
- The car is a driver's car, designed and tuned for people who know how to drive (able to drive in the advanced groups at track days). If you have a GT3 and don't drive at that level, I encourage you to do track days and get to that level. You have the right car to do it, and you'll enjoy the car more.
- Being a driver's car, the car likes proper trailbraking and progressive turn in, and allows for a lot of adjustment in mid corner. If you don't like the way the car is handling, the fault is probably with your driving technique.
- The brake feel is perfect with the standard brakes and pads.
Now a note about safety. It's not just about your driving, it's also about what other people are doing. In my area, people do a lot of foolish things which put them at risk of being hit. This morning was possibly the worst I've seen in that regard. The limits of this car are very high, and the handling may inspire you to drive it fast, but, really, be careful out there. I don't mean to lecture from on high, I have to repeat this to myself frequently to keep myself in check. The only proper place to reach for the limits is the track.
- I still think the car is fantastic. I love it.
- The car doesn't need more torque or power. For what this car is, the power is plenty.
- The car is a driver's car, designed and tuned for people who know how to drive (able to drive in the advanced groups at track days). If you have a GT3 and don't drive at that level, I encourage you to do track days and get to that level. You have the right car to do it, and you'll enjoy the car more.
- Being a driver's car, the car likes proper trailbraking and progressive turn in, and allows for a lot of adjustment in mid corner. If you don't like the way the car is handling, the fault is probably with your driving technique.
- The brake feel is perfect with the standard brakes and pads.
Now a note about safety. It's not just about your driving, it's also about what other people are doing. In my area, people do a lot of foolish things which put them at risk of being hit. This morning was possibly the worst I've seen in that regard. The limits of this car are very high, and the handling may inspire you to drive it fast, but, really, be careful out there. I don't mean to lecture from on high, I have to repeat this to myself frequently to keep myself in check. The only proper place to reach for the limits is the track.
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The reason I’m doing the stripes/decals on top of the PPF is that I can have him remove them if I don’t like them, without pulling all the PPF off. And if the extra layer of PPF ahead of the rear wheels is because my last 911’s PPF in that area pretty quickly got pretty destroyed by typical road debris. So this way, I can have him pull that top layer, and replace it.
That’s the theory, at least. Will have to see how it works out.
That’s the theory, at least. Will have to see how it works out.
Why?
Because microfiber cloths will eventually pull "up" the edges of the decal, especially all of the edges of the P-O-R-S-C-H-E lower door decals.
Just my 2 cents.