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Old 06-10-2023 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Randy M
How can I watch the race here in the US? I did a search which said Motor Trend +
I think all the Porsche dealers are having a celebration of 75th anniversary with viewing of the race.
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Old 06-10-2023 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Randy M
How can I watch the race here in the US? I did a search which said Motor Trend +
Guess the organizers care only about short-term profit over long-term viewership.
Old 06-11-2023 | 12:04 AM
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There are multiple live streams.

https://www.youtube.com/live/uxSg2x1MP90

https://www.youtube.com/@Motul - Glickenhaus

https://www.youtube.com/@Ferrari - 2 live streams of both the 499Ps
Old 06-11-2023 | 12:46 AM
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The regular Motor Trend channel is showing it
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Old 06-11-2023 | 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Randy M
The regular Motor Trend channel is showing it
Thank You!

Looks like the #75 car of Tandy, Jaminet, and Nasr retired.

Edit: Not a good showing for Porsche. Ganassi gets on the podium with Cadillac. Toyota takes runner-up to Ferrari and the team manager is literally despondent. Cant imagine how Porsche management must feel with a 9th.


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Old 06-11-2023 | 08:01 PM
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Old 06-11-2023 | 08:03 PM
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Seriously, Penske Porsche has 3 hypercar entries and the best they can manage is 9th place!. I wonder how much Roger dumped into this effort. Glickenhaus managed 6th and 7th. Pretty amazing and consistent for a privateer.
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Old 06-12-2023 | 01:45 PM
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Seriously, Penske Porsche has 3 hypercar entries and the best they can manage is 9th place!. I wonder how much Roger dumped into this effort. Glickenhaus managed 6th and 7th. Pretty amazing and consistent for a privateer.
Porsche had their moments up front early on, but kept making mistakes.

The #5 car spent 20 minutes in the pits overnight repairing the cooling system and on the last lap (Christensen) could barely get it over the finish line.
Due to a defective drive train.

The #75 car was LEADING for many laps, but with Jaminet driving rolled to a stop in the evening due to a lack of fuel pressure.

And the #6 car with Kevin Estre and Laurens Vanthoor ended going off the track on several occasions and even crashed into the barriers not once, but twice.
Repairs took 40 minutes. And they lost another 30 minutes when the hybrid battery had to be changed.

No doubt, Porsche will learn from Le Mans.​​​​​​

Speaking of coming into this event as an "underdog" . . . did you see the result that the Inter Europol team had?
This Polish team has only been racing since 2010 and they WON LMP2 yesterday!



Scherer: LMP2 Le Mans winners Inter Europol are ‘the underdog team’ – Motorsport Week

Here is a link to the Team's Timeline.

They started out first in Formula Ford and Formula Three.
Had financial problems at the end of 2010 and Wojciech Smiechowski, the father of racer Jakub came in and took over the team.
Wojciech is the owner of the Inter Europol S.A. bakery, and the team was named after its new owner-sponsor.

Inter Europol Competition — Wikipedia Republished // WIKI 2

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Porsche made a poor choice with Penske IMO...
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Originally Posted by Larry Cable
Porsche made a poor choice with Penske IMO...
To be honest Larry, I dont think that Penske was the problem.
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Old 06-12-2023 | 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Larry Cable
Porsche made a poor choice with Penske IMO...
Originally Posted by Diablo Dude
To be honest Larry, I dont think that Penske was the problem.
The issues began when Porsche chose to use the cheap, backdoor LMDh pathway to building a car.

Beyond that, the car is both slow and fragile; outsourcing the operations to Penske was just another way to do this on the cheap versus the glory days of the true factory LMP1 effort.

What did Karl Ludvigsen say? “Excellence was Expected;” yet absent…

Also keep in mind that Porsche is still struggling to get to grips with Formula E (even after the other German marques left the series); this is the same Porsche brand that thought they would saunter into F1 and dictate terms of a partnership with Red Bull Racing. The closest Porsche will get to F1 is the nifty “DRS” wing on the GT3 RS.

Meanwhile, Ferrari rolled up to Le Mans after a 50 year top class absence and won the race.
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Old 06-12-2023 | 08:06 PM
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Ferrari definitely deserved the win - not sure why Porsche is still in Formula-E - aliens could abduct that entire race series and no one would notice or care... it s about as captivating as a slot car set at xmas ...

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Old 06-12-2023 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Larry Cable
Ferrari definitely deserved the win - not sure why Porsche is still in Formula-E - aliens could abduct that entire race series and no one would notice or care... it s about as captivating as a slot car set at xmas ...
True.

I tried watching a Formula E race and a restart took nearly 30 minutes. What a joke!

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Old 06-13-2023 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Guest89
The issues began when Porsche chose to use the cheap, backdoor LMDh pathway to building a car.

Beyond that, the car is both slow and fragile; outsourcing the operations to Penske was just another way to do this on the cheap versus the glory days of the true factory LMP1 effort.

What did Karl Ludvigsen say? “Excellence was Expected;” yet absent…

Also keep in mind that Porsche is still struggling to get to grips with Formula E (even after the other German marques left the series); this is the same Porsche brand that thought they would saunter into F1 and dictate terms of a partnership with Red Bull Racing. The closest Porsche will get to F1 is the nifty “DRS” wing on the GT3 RS.

Meanwhile, Ferrari rolled up to Le Mans after a 50 year top class absence and won the race.
Agree It's Déjà vu all over again. Porsche did this in the old Grand Am series with poor results too. This time they had the option to do it right and develop their own car with their own technology and went the cheap route instead. From a corporation stand point, there is virtually no technology transfer from race to road cars either, since most of the components are spec parts from suppliers.
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Trying to watch the E race ...


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