PTS

At MSRP and without the plaque, it won't be expensive when you compare it to the 992.2 GT3, which will likely have 20-50% of the S/T's "kit"

There will be 500-600 S/T's in the US. I'll bet there are 3x more 991.2 Tourings than that here. And why does the production volume matter in this discussion? Same thing as adding value for the plaque

WenigerAberBeser

huh? lol… there’s only 714 US spec tourings for 991.2. That’s my point… people pay $$$ for the plaque, not the ‘kit’. There’s certainly not $100k+ worth of kit on the ST vs normal touring.

so yes, the st and the 992.2 gt3 are expensive when comparing them to all prior GT cars

PTS

I don't track production volume because it does not matter to me. Seems you are dialed in there! You assume everyone buying an S/T is paying for the plaque? Many are, many don't give a sh*t, like me. It's the easy put down of the S/T for those that won't get the car or don't want the car. Trying to crap on the premium or crap on the rarity (or lack thereof). It's going to be the best driving 992 they make. Some are willing to pay for that, some won't.

Mag wheels, carbon roof/doors/fenders, bespoke clutch and flywheel, gearing, bespoke shifter, bespoke tuning of the suspension (the hours of R&D spent to make this a more suitable road car), special interior, etc....that's worth $75k+ on paper, off paper a lot more to some when you combine all those elements, the non-tangibles often make the experience of car, like the R. Many don't care about any of those items, the S/T isn't for them

I'm sure my $338k S/T is going to be a nice bargain compared to the $300k 992.2 GT3's that are coming

WenigerAberBeser

calm down PTS, I know you come here every day to argue with folks with diffrent opinions than yourself, you do you. I'm not putting down the S/T or the 992.2, just calling a spade a spade, sorry if that hurts your ego which from the above post, it does.

btw, why make a 992.2 GT3 thread about you and your ST? don't we have enough of the S/T crowd defending their babies?

PTS

This was actually a discussion until you had no rebuttal, then had to make it personal.

Is the 992.2 GT3 not related to the S/T? It is

9914s

Ouch, Porsche never makes a new model to be worst than the previous one. .2 > .1

usctrojanGT3

The .2GT3 will have some of the ST goodies and the increase in MSRP will definitely reflect that. Would I have traded in my .1Touring for a ST at MSRP? Duh of course because it's better and has cool stuff but when you are talking about $200k or more over sticker then it does not compute for me because $500k+ buys other "more fun" cars. Will I trade in .1Touring for a NA .2Touring even if it's $50k more? Definitely because it'll be newer and have some fun new goodies plus I get a chance get a new fun PTS color.

cosmos

What I was told is the suspension on both the .2 wing and touring cars will be updated. Power update as well and optional “track” pack on the wing cars. Neither will have the doors, roof, fenders or shifter. The new aero is pretty trick.

GT3 Mike

Any truth to the .3 hybrid ?

993RR

Also WP option probably.

Kinetic1

My tears could fill the tiniest thimble.

GrantG

Do you think it’ll be possible to have Winged Track Pack car with Manual (or Manual earmarked for Touring)?

cosmos

smaller than the violin?

Kinetic1

YES

cosmos

Latest I know is that EU will be PDK only, manual is still in play for North America. I would not be surprised if there will be two distinct cars between the EU and NA.