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Old 04-24-2023, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
Yeah, I don't disagree.

But one thing that PAG has as its advantage is that no one (except maybe Lambo, another VW brethren) really cares about "official manufacturer" Ring times. Not Mclaren, and certainly not Ferrari.

So when Porsche builds a GT car to a specific Ring time (and make no mistake they absolutely do), they can have their own Werks drivers run the Ring times, ensuring a pristine lap and a headline grabbing Ring time.

While other marques may have their cars run on the Ring -- it's usually by a indie 3d party or some journalist with no official brand support so it's always going to be slower.
I think all the German companies (including Lambo of the VW Group) use factory support. Looking at the Sport Auto times levels this playing field...
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
Yeah, I don't disagree.

But one thing that PAG has as its advantage is that no one (except maybe Lambo, another VW brethren) really cares about "official manufacturer" Ring times. Not Mclaren, and certainly not Ferrari.

So when Porsche builds a GT car to a specific Ring time (and make no mistake they absolutely do), they can have their own Werks drivers run the Ring times, ensuring a pristine lap and a headline grabbing Ring time.

While other marques may have their cars run on the Ring -- it's usually by a indie 3d party or some journalist with no official brand support so it's always going to be slower.
​​​​​​I got some info that Ferrari will enter lap times race (not sure if they gonna do ring) but LaFerrari replacement aiming at Senna level of aerodynamics and that will translate into rest of lineup like SF90 VS + 296 VS.
Lotus is another example I heard this year they taking Evija to ring aiming for the lap record, also heard AMG want to do another lap with AMG One this year, the new ZR1 definitely will go for lap record when it comes out in a year or 2, Mclaren I personally don't think they have the money yet to do it.

If you ask me I don't think GT2RS will beat lap time as I expect current AMG One lap time will be beaten anyway by either same car or competition like Evija, and when that happens Porsche will come up with driving experience focused car than just lap times, that's what Ferrari did and succeeded when McLaren beat it's performance, 458 became a benchmark despite losing.

And that's where my powertrain speculation came from, competition is just hard performance wise, they pushing 200-300hp jumps due to Hybrid tech, yes if Porsche aim for lap record they will do it as they never failed us but will they aim for it this time? Let's see, I smell a Hypercar for that.
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Old 04-24-2023, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by GrantG
I think all the German companies (including Lambo of the VW Group) use factory support. Looking at the Sport Auto times levels this playing field...
Maybe, but no other German marque -- not MB, not BMW -- really is as myopically focused on the Ring as Porsche is.

MB sort of pays lip service to it, and BMW hasn't really put out an official Ring time that anyone pays attention to, even the M4CSL (the last official Ring time put out by BMWAG) was sort of yawned at.
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
Maybe, but no other German marque -- not MB, not BMW -- really is as myopically focused on the Ring as Porsche is.

MB sort of pays lip service to it, and BMW hasn't really put out an official Ring time that anyone pays attention to, even the M4CSL (the last official Ring time put out by BMWAG) was sort of yawned at.
AMG was awfully focused on the Ring for its newest Black Series.

BTW, the latest track test of the new 992 GT3 RS shows it's as fast as the GT2 RS with 175hp less (and far less torque). Imagine it with a few hundred more HP and TQ:


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Originally Posted by GrantG
AMG was awfully focused on the Ring for its newest Black Series.

BTW, the latest track test of the new 992 GT3 RS shows it's as fast as the GT2 RS with 175hp less (and far less torque). Imagine it with a few hundred more HP and TQ:

New GT3RS already beat GT2RS (non MR) on Ring, the downforce difference made a big difference, and we might see new Tropheo RS tyres on MR variant of it which might make it even beat GT2RS MR as well, so new GT2RS definitely capable of beating current lap time but I don't think the current lap time will be the one to beat when it's launched.
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Originally Posted by Wind911
I wonder where do they vent the intercooler. Just dumping it under the car?
There is a matte black (cladding) bumper extension below the taillight and above the license plate. I'm guessing the intercooler(s) is(are) venting there on this mule. Should be a low pressure region on the rear of the bumper. Venting a drag resulting high pressure region (leading side of intercooler) to a drag resulting low pressure region (backside of rear bumper) is a smart move for a number of reasons. I anticipate the final execution to be a bit more visually pleasing.


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What are the chances this is not a Gt2RS mule?
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Originally Posted by GrantG
AMG was awfully focused on the Ring for its newest Black Series.

BTW, the latest track test of the new 992 GT3 RS shows it's as fast as the GT2 RS with 175hp less (and far less torque). Imagine it with a few hundred more HP and TQ:

Is one else surprised at the Z06's time?!
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What I can tell you all guys is
That is NOT a GT2 RS mule, or to say, it is NOT for GT2 RS project.

Don't jump to conclusions too soon
The Porsche will surprise us ;-)
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Old 04-24-2023, 07:37 PM
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Here's a youtube video of what was photographed - scroll to 1:30s :

Turbocharger?

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Old 04-25-2023, 11:46 AM
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i see this as same car last version was. a gt3rs with a tweeked tt motor. i dont see them using a track model to start 911 hybrid. that will happen on 992.2 turbo.
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Looks like the GT2 RS is going to be a while getting here, assuming this is to be believed:






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Old 05-17-2023, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Nizer
Looks like the GT2 RS is going to be a while getting here, assuming this is to be believed:


That would be an unusually long gap to the 994. The 992 was introduced in Fall 2018 at LA Auto Show (as a 2019 model year in RoW and model year 2020 in US) and the well established duration of a full generation is 7 years.

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Old 05-17-2023, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by GrantG
That would be an unusually long gap to the 994. The 992 was introduced in Fall 2018 at LA Auto Show (as a 2019 model year in RoW and model year 2020 in US) and the well established duration of a full generation is 7 years.
Porsche has so much on their plate. People
think they can just push out more cars, quickly fix a QC issue, resolve some supply problem, lol, they have no idea.
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So if that isn't the GT2RS test mule, I wonder what it is


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