Enjoy!!

https://youtu.be/Tj0bINNj_0E

 

Just watched it.
The manual is pretty darn impressive!

 

I think its should be manual vs PDK in same category (winged or touring).

comparing a wing vs touring isn't fair because of the drag resistance in the winged one.

 

Two relevant points here that give the manual an advantage although not enough to overcome the lighting shift speed of the pdk, one was mentioned in the video and the other not.

Manual is lighter so will accelerate faster
Manual also has more HP to the wheels because of less parasitic losses through the PDK.

Not enough to over come the lighting speed shifting of the PDK though.

 

If the Winged car was in High Downforce mode, then I agree. Otherwise, the Touring and Wing (in delivery mode) have about same drag.

Don’t forget that the PDK gets better (lower and closer) gear ratios. Without that, I think Manual would win in drag and track lapping. PDK weighs 37 pounds more and saps more engine power as friction/heat in the wet clutches.

Don’t even think the guy driving the Manual knew it also has launch control and no-lift shifting.

 

The difference in weight between Yanni and Matt is probably bigger than that (but Yanni was in the heavier car too).

But yeah, the manual is surprisingly fast. I may reconsider my desire to get ST now (heck knows if I can get it, though).

 

That's funny.

But also, who knows how much gas was in each car too.....A full tank of gas weighs about 142 lbs with the extended range tank. Also winged car has PCCBs. Doesn't appear the Touring does unless they are painted.

 

Manual is lighter, puts down more power to the ground, and in this case was wingless. All factors. Matt not doing no-lift shift hurt it as well, I believe it could have beaten the PDK even more.

 

accurate

 

Wait, does anyone think the MT is faster than a PDK on track? I wish that was the case but data shows otherwise.

 

Depends on the driver. In my 991.2 GT3 manual, I either kept up or was able to often put down better lap times against PDK versions no problem. Hard to say unless I drove the PDK back to back, but I'd have to say if the same driver drove both cars I'd put money on the PDK simply due to the shorter gears allowing better corner exit speeds (really would also depend on the track as well)

I now have a 992 PDK and can say the manual is more fun, I'd have one but I couldn't pass up the deal I got on this car as even in PDK, it's an amazing vehicle.

 

Same driver in both cars and the pdk is going to be faster on track and in the straights....unless the driver is me. I don't even know how to drive a pdk car. Kinda like the guy in the video. lol

 

I’ve driven both. I love the MT. However, the PDK on the track for lap times is no doubt better. It shifts at the right time and doesn’t lose momentum. The data shows it.

Ask anyone pushing a MT how much they think about the 4-5th shift. If they say “not at all” they are lying or they will be buying an engine soon.

They are both great.

 

PDK is very slightly faster on track, but the difference is far smaller than most people think and that Porsche projects through their marketing.

PDK is not faster in some older 987 models though (where the deck hasn’t been stacked in its favor).

I don’t think the technology on its own causes a significantly faster lap time from its faster shift time alone - it does not clearly outweigh its weight penalty and its less efficient transfer of power to the driven wheels.

In the 992 GT3, you have to remember the PDK has more favorable gearing and an active LSD.

 

Good stuff