The real value thread! Show us your max G-forces!
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GrantG (05-06-2022)
#7
An ideal, friction circle is literally that a circle - when driving round a track at race pace a good driver generates a circular pattern (the orange ball moves in a circular pattern) meaning he or she is making the maximum use of the cars grip. A novice driver tends to make a star shaped pattern - meaning they brake and accelerate well but corner poorly (don't use all available grip)
So the example posted by the OP indicates his left and right cornering is similar but he isn't using the maximum grip available to him whilst braking (or the top number would be around 1.8). The bottom number ~ 1.3g is close to the maximum accelerative g for this car which occurs ~ at around 33mph, in first gear at ~ 6000 rpm. The fact that he achieved this and had a number below 1.8g means he likely had little wheel slip when he launched.
You can download this data and more from logging set ups or the Porsche Track app when it works.
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#8
Its what is known as a friction circle - it is level of g force accomodated by the car during acceleration, braking and turning (both left and write). The top number is braking g force, the bottom number is g force generated by acceleration and the left and right numbers are the cornering forces.
An ideal, friction circle is literally that a circle - a good driver generates a circular pattern meaning he or she is making the maximum use of the cars grip. A novice driver tends to make a star shaped pattern - meaning they brake and accelerate well but corner poorly (don't use all available grip.
An ideal, friction circle is literally that a circle - a good driver generates a circular pattern meaning he or she is making the maximum use of the cars grip. A novice driver tends to make a star shaped pattern - meaning they brake and accelerate well but corner poorly (don't use all available grip.
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#9
Its what is known as a friction circle - it is level of g force generated by the car during acceleration, braking and turning (both left and right). The top number is braking g force, the bottom number is g force generated by acceleration and the left and right numbers are the cornering forces.
An ideal, friction circle is literally that a circle - when driving round a track at race pace a good driver generates a circular pattern (the orange ball moves in a circular pattern) meaning he or she is making the maximum use of the cars grip. A novice driver tends to make a star shaped pattern - meaning they brake and accelerate well but corner poorly (don't use all available grip)
So the example posted by the OP indicates his left and right cornering is similar but he isn't using the maximum grip available to him whilst braking (or the top number would be around 1.8). The bottom number ~ 1.3g is close to the maximum accelerative g for this car which occurs ~ at around 33mph, in first gear at ~ 6000 rpm. The fact that he achieved this and had a number below 1.8g means he likely had little wheel slip when he launched.
You can download this data and more from logging set ups or the Porsche Track app when it works.
An ideal, friction circle is literally that a circle - when driving round a track at race pace a good driver generates a circular pattern (the orange ball moves in a circular pattern) meaning he or she is making the maximum use of the cars grip. A novice driver tends to make a star shaped pattern - meaning they brake and accelerate well but corner poorly (don't use all available grip)
So the example posted by the OP indicates his left and right cornering is similar but he isn't using the maximum grip available to him whilst braking (or the top number would be around 1.8). The bottom number ~ 1.3g is close to the maximum accelerative g for this car which occurs ~ at around 33mph, in first gear at ~ 6000 rpm. The fact that he achieved this and had a number below 1.8g means he likely had little wheel slip when he launched.
You can download this data and more from logging set ups or the Porsche Track app when it works.
#11
You will reach your limits way before the car's limits. Tire pressure, temps etc matter of course too. I believe that guys who are getting those huge g force numbers are doing it at a high speed during elevation changes with a turn at the bottom which will maximize your normal force and hence g-forces. My GT3 is getting up to 1.35 on a totally flat track with factory alignment, and CUP 2s. Max g forces will occur just before loss of traction.
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#12
Here is my max G force. Not bad considering 3 point and sofas. haha. I don't track the car though. Took it out a couple times for 3-4 laps just to try it out. I'm sticking to fully caged race cars for track duty.
#13
Get on it gramps.
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Its what is known as a friction circle - it is level of g force generated by the car during acceleration, braking and turning (both left and right). The top number is braking g force, the bottom number is g force generated by acceleration and the left and right numbers are the cornering forces.
An ideal, friction circle is literally that a circle - when driving round a track at race pace a good driver generates a circular pattern (the orange ball moves in a circular pattern) meaning he or she is making the maximum use of the cars grip. A novice driver tends to make a star shaped pattern - meaning they brake and accelerate well but corner poorly (don't use all available grip)
So the example posted by the OP indicates his left and right cornering is similar but he isn't using the maximum grip available to him whilst braking (or the top number would be around 1.8). The bottom number ~ 1.3g is close to the maximum accelerative g for this car which occurs ~ at around 33mph, in first gear at ~ 6000 rpm. The fact that he achieved this and had a number below 1.8g means he likely had little wheel slip when he launched.
You can download this data and more from logging set ups or the Porsche Track app when it works.
An ideal, friction circle is literally that a circle - when driving round a track at race pace a good driver generates a circular pattern (the orange ball moves in a circular pattern) meaning he or she is making the maximum use of the cars grip. A novice driver tends to make a star shaped pattern - meaning they brake and accelerate well but corner poorly (don't use all available grip)
So the example posted by the OP indicates his left and right cornering is similar but he isn't using the maximum grip available to him whilst braking (or the top number would be around 1.8). The bottom number ~ 1.3g is close to the maximum accelerative g for this car which occurs ~ at around 33mph, in first gear at ~ 6000 rpm. The fact that he achieved this and had a number below 1.8g means he likely had little wheel slip when he launched.
You can download this data and more from logging set ups or the Porsche Track app when it works.
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Its what is known as a friction circle - it is level of g force generated by the car during acceleration, braking and turning (both left and right). The top number is braking g force, the bottom number is g force generated by acceleration and the left and right numbers are the cornering forces.
An ideal, friction circle is literally that a circle - when driving round a track at race pace a good driver generates a circular pattern.
An ideal, friction circle is literally that a circle - when driving round a track at race pace a good driver generates a circular pattern.
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