Originally Posted by Maverick787

Yup that happens now ………..that’s how I got my Speedster dealer purchased and titled with 18 delivery miles slapped on 200K ADM January 2020, and it was Covid nothing selling so I offered a cash buy June 2020 they said bla, bla. Next day called me to come get it in one hour MSRP, and sold a 2nd one they had on the floor at MSRP. Only thing I got nailed on is 6 months less warranty as it was punched to show a sale. Dealers will always have a legal way around these letters, you’re seeing corporate PR it’s not GM but it’s our dealers being bad.

Originally Posted by G.Irish

Dealers can always find a way to markup a car in their possesion, the trick is that the manufacturer can always reduce future allocations of the really desirable cars based on that behavior. But that depends on how easy it is to detect the shenanigans.

Ultimately like we always come back to, the easiest way to undercut the games is just to build more cars. More profitable for Porsche, and they don't have fight their dealer network over it.

Originally Posted by PTS

When is Kia going to do the same? Tellurides everywhere for $10-20k over! Those greedy bastards

Originally Posted by 3-Pedals

If you are buying at the same time selling, the market is fine (cars/houses/etc). But if you are not selling and buying, this is a terrible idea.

Originally Posted by CAlexio

well, for all of us who have wondered if it was possible to address and or "solve" dealer ADM (in quotes because many of us have come up with half-baked but earnest solutions to dealer ADM).. GM, (yes General Motors).. has just issued a letter to it's dealer network that seems to directly address the ADM issue for the Corvette Z06 (and other upcoming high interest cars). It seemed so simple to many of us who have been watching, suffering, agonizing even over this issue.. that something should be done, but we kept hearing that because of US franchise laws, "nothing could be done". Porsche appeared to either not care or not be able to do something about the situation, and many lifelong Porsche customers were left with a very bad impression of the brand in this respect. It seems though, that this apparent impotence was more akin to unwillingness to act. I'm totally impressed with the letter GM just sent out to its dealer network.. now whether it has teeth and how they enforce the letter remains to be seen, but they clearly have set a precedent that GM will discipline dealers who tarnish the GM brand by adding ADM and other practices outlined in the letter.

"it has come to our attention that some of our dealers do not support a positive sales experience for their GM customers...." and it goes on beautifully from there.... (protected text so can't copy paste.. click on the link for more) here is the letter.. it's so beautiful it brought a little tear to my eye. This is a company with some cojones!!

Corvette Price Gouging: GM puts dealers on notice
so, after reading this, we can finally point to Porsche management with our little index fingers and ask "Et Tu Brute?"

Originally Posted by DrJay

The exceptionally simple solution to this from a dealers perspective is to title the car, which then makes it a used car, and then sell it for whatever price they want. Even if GM wanted to enforce ADMs, I don't see how they could impact that scenario unless they are planning on fighting dealers in court.

Originally Posted by Perimeter

I won't buy another Porsche because the terrible dealer experience. Great cars but the dealers simply make this a lackluster experience when it should be fun and exciting.
It was no problem for me to paid $30k on the secondary market to a VIP to order my Touring because Porsche Chandler did not acknowledge I did $240k worth of business in their first 5 months of being open in 2016 with a slot.

Porsche is a sell out for short term cash, not a boon to long term loyal customers.

Originally Posted by KSEGG

When I was 12, I was like that kid in that old 997 commercial who went after school to the Porsche dealership to look at 911's.

20+ something years later I visited several Porsche dealerships to put my order in for one.

And not a single dealer wanted to sell me one. Fine, I get it, I have to be "special" to get a GTx, how about a Turbo? Nah, I need to be "special" to get one of those too.

How about a Carrera GTS? Nah, need to be special for that too. They said I should buy a Macan, I'm good enough for that.

The dealership experience over the past few years left a really sour taste in my mouth, so much so that I no longer want a 911 (or a Porsche, for that matter) anymore.