Notices
992 GT3 and GT2RS Forum 2019-Current
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Porsche please stop dealership price gouging.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-06-2021, 05:13 PM
  #31  
shahrukh_bakar
Racer
 
shahrukh_bakar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 298
Received 110 Likes on 52 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Captain P
I don’t know about more desirable. I got mine luckily. Hopefully I build better relationship with my sales rep and this pans out with access to gt cars and more down the line. However the thought of going through this again is kinda saddening, so I’m actually starting to look at other brands (Ferrari, have an order for Tesla roadster). I’m not going to put in this much effort again.

So far so good though. They actually offered me the gts and asked about interest in rs, so I’m hopeful.
It may not make it more desirable to some but for the investors and flippers, have a car being hard to acquire makes it more ‘desirable’ in the sense that the value is driven up.
Old 11-06-2021, 05:40 PM
  #32  
wormman
Instructor
 
wormman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Dallas Texas
Posts: 113
Received 61 Likes on 33 Posts
Default

Buy a 911 GTS instead or pony up. The market is the market
Old 11-06-2021, 05:40 PM
  #33  
Chris C.
Rennlist Member
 
Chris C.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Bay Area CA
Posts: 3,162
Received 528 Likes on 278 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by once4all
"Dealerships that price gouge should be penalized by Porsche. If a dealership is reported to be price gouging their GT allotments should be taken away and given to dealerships that do not price gouge, simple. This will ultimately build more brand passion, enthusiasm, and loyalty."

This precisely is how Rolex controls their authorized dealers. AD's can only sell at MSRP. Why Porsche can't do the same? Well Rolex is not a for profit company maybe the ultimate answer.
And, like cars, this leads to dealers selling at MSRP to friends who wear/drive em for 3 months and sell them back to re-sell as used for a great profit - seen this for years when manufacturers dictate MSRP only. Many people on this board knowingly or unknowingly participate in this. Unscrupulous dealers will always exist.

Honestly, it's a supply and demand problem driven by the fact that Porsche isn't listening to customers saying we want more natually aspirated driving experiences. Some love the Turbos, and that's great, but Turbo power isn't very differentiated from cars like BMWs for example that make 675hp. It's a market research and product manageement problem, driven by external regulation and the belief that electric cars are climate friendly. Bring one synthetic fuels - gotta love real innovation!

I applaud your open letter - the solution will need to be mutli-faceted, and include opening more dealerships in high demand territories, and selling directly to consumers via the web.

Last edited by Chris C.; 11-06-2021 at 05:42 PM.
Old 11-06-2021, 05:43 PM
  #34  
komodor19
Intermediate
Thread Starter
 
komodor19's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2020
Posts: 28
Received 41 Likes on 17 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Captain Scurry
Dear Santa,

I have been a good boy this year. I am begging you, please give me a GT3 allocation at MSRP.

Johnny

———————————

Dear Johnny,

Sorry, no GT3 allocation this year at MSRP. Time to grow up. Santa isn’t real and life isn’t fair. It takes time, money, effort, and a little luck to get what you want. I can however get you a huge discount on a new 2020 Taycan. Whoops, I forgot, you only pay the MSRP for new cars.

Santa
LOL, I enjoyed reading the same internet trolls come out with their “hard” stances about lessons in capitalism and archaic survival of the fittest mentally. As soon as anyone says anything that deviates from their views, cue the insulting and belittling comments… hold on I just joined the club.



The following 4 users liked this post by komodor19:
InfamousS/T (11-06-2021), JAhmed (11-10-2021), ljmartyre (11-07-2021), Mcx (12-04-2021)
Old 11-06-2021, 05:46 PM
  #35  
n d
Pro
 
n d's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Posts: 569
Received 189 Likes on 106 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by CPS992
Constantly amazed that there are people who have the money to buy one of these cars also have zero understanding of capitalism.
so true…… I feel bad getting a car at msrp now (not really) but how can I ask a dealer to not make money market value is what it is ….. and if I had to pay admission I would . Btw same dealer that sold me the gt3 at msrp just got me a g63 for about 50k over and I’m happy to pay….
Old 11-06-2021, 06:23 PM
  #36  
chance6
Race Car
 
chance6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Somewhere out East
Posts: 3,793
Received 1,491 Likes on 958 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by maspirito
I was at a dealership in Southwest Florida today and the sales associate told me that they had sold a new 992 GT3 for 100k over. He said that the car was sold in 4 hours and that there were people bidding against each other for it.
Oh Lord, a possible wive's tale...they are such experts at gossip, aren't they?

These f* jack*sses ...
The following users liked this post:
komodor19 (11-06-2021)
Old 11-06-2021, 06:36 PM
  #37  
Mr Mojo Risin
Racer
 
Mr Mojo Risin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: Arlington, VA
Posts: 340
Received 191 Likes on 108 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Captain Scurry
Dear Santa,

I have been a good boy this year. I am begging you, please give me a GT3 allocation at MSRP.

Johnny

———————————

Dear Johnny,

Sorry, no GT3 allocation this year at MSRP. Time to grow up. Santa isn’t real and life isn’t fair. It takes time, money, effort, and a little luck to get what you want. I can however get you a huge discount on a new 2020 Taycan. Whoops, I forgot, you only pay the MSRP for new cars.

Santa
Love it!! I hear the tooth fairy is a loyal enthusiast.
Old 11-06-2021, 06:36 PM
  #38  
CPS992
Racer
 
CPS992's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2021
Posts: 316
Received 355 Likes on 150 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by chance6
Oh Lord, a possible wive's tale...they are such experts at gossip, aren't they?

These f* jack*sses ...
One just hammered for ~$313k in the UK on collectingcars.com - so don't know why you're finding it so hard to believe someone got their checkbook out in FL.
Old 11-06-2021, 06:39 PM
  #39  
chance6
Race Car
 
chance6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Somewhere out East
Posts: 3,793
Received 1,491 Likes on 958 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by RossP
The entire dealership industry is completely unnecessary. Tesla has proven this. Can someone please explain why car manufacturers dont see this? Sell direct to the consumer and take all the profit. Then all you have to do is turn existing dealerships into dedicated service centers and you are good to go.
You say that, but there's no way in Hell I'd buy one of these cars sight unseen...where it's just delivered to my door without any real pre-delivery inspection.
Old 11-06-2021, 06:40 PM
  #40  
chance6
Race Car
 
chance6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Somewhere out East
Posts: 3,793
Received 1,491 Likes on 958 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by CPS992
One just hammered for ~$313k in the UK on collectingcars.com - so don't know why you're finding it so hard to believe someone got their checkbook out in FL.
OK so about $240K U.S.
Old 11-06-2021, 06:46 PM
  #41  
Shockwave93
Intermediate
 
Shockwave93's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: California
Posts: 47
Received 57 Likes on 19 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by RossP
The entire dealership industry is completely unnecessary. Tesla has proven this. Can someone please explain why car manufacturers dont see this? Sell direct to the consumer and take all the profit. Then all you have to do is turn existing dealerships into dedicated service centers and you are good to go.
Seriously, just let me order my car online, first come, first served. Want to prioritize 918 buyers? Let them preorder first. It's ridiculous that you basically have to beg a dealer to sell you a $200k car.
The following 10 users liked this post by Shockwave93:
AlexCeres (11-07-2021), azzurri (11-07-2021), GT3 Mike (11-08-2021), IrwinMFletcher (11-06-2021), komodor19 (11-06-2021), lefizzet (11-07-2021), ljmartyre (11-07-2021), RolloGigolo (11-08-2021), RossP (11-06-2021), Sal635 (11-08-2021) and 5 others liked this post. (Show less...)
Old 11-06-2021, 06:48 PM
  #42  
Maverick787
Nordschleife Master
 
Maverick787's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 5,304
Received 2,090 Likes on 1,009 Posts
Default

Not being a jerk, but no one complains when they buy at 10% under MSRP. Raising MSRP doesn’t fix a thing because ADM will get the new MSRP. GT2RS and Speedsters ran close to 300k MSRP and many had ADM’s so that logic is flawed and Porsche will not make a GT3 for everyone that wants one. The GT cars were a treat for their top customers, and now everyone wants a trophy the math will never work. My buddy at Porsche came by for a beer last Thursday and he laughed and said people just shouldn’t pay it not our problem.
Old 11-06-2021, 07:02 PM
  #43  
Archimedes
Race Director
 
Archimedes's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 13,162
Received 3,861 Likes on 1,902 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Shockwave93
Seriously, just let me order my car online, first come, first served. Want to prioritize 918 buyers? Let them preorder first. It's ridiculous that you basically have to beg a dealer to sell you a $200k car.
Why should the first person to click on a website take priority over someone willing to pay more for an asset who just wasn’t first to sign up? And what makes you think Porsche wouldn’t use dynamic pricing and just raise the prices when the demand was high? You don’t think Tesla does that with all their price changes?

Fact is, when you have 10 buyers for every car, some people ain’t gonna get no Coke. If you want one, pay for it. If not, don’t. Just stop whining about how the world owes you a car at MSRP.
The following 3 users liked this post by Archimedes:
AlexCeres (11-07-2021), Mr Mojo Risin (11-06-2021), Wittlebit (12-19-2021)
Old 11-06-2021, 07:19 PM
  #44  
CPS992
Racer
 
CPS992's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2021
Posts: 316
Received 355 Likes on 150 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by chance6
OK so about $240K U.S.
I did the conversion. $313k USD.
Old 11-06-2021, 07:22 PM
  #45  
shrimp money
Race Car
 
shrimp money's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Ohio
Posts: 4,181
Received 4,805 Likes on 1,946 Posts
Default

There are just things wealthier people get to enjoy in life. Ain’t mad at it.

I do wish Netjets would fly me around for $500/flight hour.
The following 3 users liked this post by shrimp money:
-eztrader- (11-07-2021), AlexCeres (11-07-2021), NastyHabits (12-07-2021)


Quick Reply: Porsche please stop dealership price gouging.



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 10:35 AM.