GT3(991)

I think this is about closest to the finished product of the 992 GT3 I've seen. Mexico Blue, Nubbin Delete, 550 HP, 9000 RPM and I'll sell my House for an allocation, but that might not be enough. Anyone else think this is the actual 992 GT3 we'll see, looks perfect to me.

991.2 Gt3 Rs

I hope the car will have 550hp but I do not think it is possible unless they go with a 4.2L engine. Even then 550hp will be pushing it
and the RS will need another 20 hp at least. 570 hp is nearly impossible with a 4.2L with restrictions. Its going to be very interesting to
see what happens.

josephr25

I like it. I will take it in that all-black testing spec too

GrantG

There is clearly still some camouflage (particularly on the rear), but basic profile looks correct.

JC3

would love that duck spoiler on the touring!

Drifting

No way will the 992.1 GT3 have 550hp. Porsche doesn't work that way. They always do incremental hp gains. And they have to leave room for the RS to top it. 520-530hp is much more likely for the 992.1 GT3

GrantG

In the 991.1, they went from 435hp to 475hp (and 40hp gain then was bigger percentage than a 40hp bump would be today)...

However, I'd happy with 535hp and a non-trivial loss of weight

haen

GrantG, this isn't directed at you personally but others on this thread requesting arbitrary hp numbers.

We already have more than enough power. The base Carreras is already too fast for most public roads!

HP is such a one-dimensional performance metric and doesn't equate to a good sports car.

Weight affects all performance metrics. Non-trivial weight loss would be awesome but don't hold your breath.

If you think my push for less weight is overrated, go drive a well-sorted Miata.

Imagine a GT3 at 2,400lbs. I'd happily trade more than 100hp for that setup.

Jrtaylor9

^^^wish that in one hand and do something else in the other and see what fills up first.

unfortunately that ship has sailed. No way we will see any material weight loss in 992/4/5/6....... bigger, heavier, faster is the formula; that is not going to change. Yeah, yeah, yeah, somebody will quote me that the 991 carrera was a ham sandwich lighter than the 997. Blah blah blah.

CAlexio

...and this isn't directed at you, but arbitrary (yet probable and realistic) hp estimates aren't ok, but a completely absurd 2400lb weight mention is ok?

Realistically, we know this car will probably rev a little more to 9250, will make a little more power around 530, and will weigh just a few almost negligible LB lighter than a stock 992. There are very few surprises within those specs.

What might be novel is:

-tire temp management system like what Michelin already offers which tells you how each tire is heating, and how to adjust pressures to maximize performance and wear, integrated into the onboard software suite.

-more aggressive aero management with S-duct front and gooseneck wing rear.

-some extra pdk & handling settings which allow for more lateral acceleration (slide management software). Also faster acting or more aggressive RWS settings. Most likely a fully integrated VAG-derived active handling suite like what is on the huracan EVO (truly transformative handling suite)

-some materials or geometry improvements in brakes, suspension management etc. lighter plastics for bumpers, more aluminum suspension, greater response from low to stiff suspension settings etc.

it's what's under the skin which they can fudge with.. but the basics like power and weight are tightly confined and frankly, not that interesting.

993RR

520ps plus all the stuff CAlexio mentions will make it another awesome GT3

haen

100% agree that it's not happening but if people are at least AWARE of weight, maybe we can shift the discussion and consumer preference. It's a long shot.

Yes, 2,400lb is a pretty arbitrary number but if everyone gets to put up their wishlist HP numbers, why can't I trade 100hp for 800lbs? Pretty close(ish) to the car's project power to weight ratio.

And I agree with your assessment as to what we can realistically expect under the novel improvements. It's pretty much in line with Porsche's incremental performance strategy.

Do you think Porsche will offer a weissach pack for the regular GT3? Porsche is all about that optional equipment.

mchrono

Why not? Id almost be surprised if they didn't at this point. WP has got to be one of the highest margin things they get away with. They seem to get more creative with each generation on how to squeeze out more. The 992 is already apparently the most profitable car made:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...le-car-of-2019

“It’s a very simple calculation: The [992] 911 is very profitable in its own form, and when you add the variations, the margins became immense"

FrenchToast

Impossible for a production car of this size.

Even a base Cayman weighs 2900 lbs. Modern cars have a lot to carry around.

You can't legally produce a car with much less than it already has. A GT3 is nearly as bare as it gets. You could delete the A/C and radio, but that won't save you much.

Bobby 911

if a duck tail is offered as an option, fine, but not as standard please. I can’t stand the look and much prefer the clean lines not be compromised.