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Old 03-18-2020 | 11:53 AM
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Hello Members Of This Forum,

Before I start my question, I want to acknowledge the fact that I understand this is on the basis of speculation for an unreleased car.

A couple months ago I drove a 991.2 gt3 with a manual at my local track club and fell in love, however it seems I missed out on the 991.2 so shooting for a 992 gt3 now.

I understand that the gt line of Porsche 911s are limited production vehicles designed primarily for track use, this interests me profoundly. However, I am presented with several barriers of entry. Firstly, I am not a "vip" customer, nor do I understand why Porsche is making people dance for a 200k car. Coming from Ferrari, I am extremly familiar with this process. Part of the reason for switching to Porsche was being rid of it. My spec would be as follows...

992 GT3 (non-rs)
Gt Silver
6 speed Manual (if available)
Standard wheels in Jet Black
Leather Interior
PCCB
Possibly Touring Package

This leads me to my next barrier to entry, my mileage. I intend to use this as a semi-daily driver and drive 20,000 miles a year (about 8,000 of which will need to be in this car). Resale value is of little to no concern to me. Plan to keep until 992.2 gt3 (if it is not hybrid) or the next good special edition Ferrari (with v8 or v12) comes out, so figure 3 to 5 years.

Finally, I would like to order this car to my spec and am wondering if it is as difficult to get as Ferrari Special Edition cars, if so I am not interested. To clarify I would like the buying process to go something like this...

Go To Dealer, Put Down Deposit
Upon Release Spec Car
Take Delivery 12-18 Months after ordering car

My question is: Is it possible for a newcomer like me to get a new GT3 at or near sticker in a reasonable time-frame relative to it's first deliveries?

I understand that it must be annoying to hear a newcomer make such demands.

Again all Hypothetical

Thanks,

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Old 03-18-2020 | 10:05 PM
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I don’t see any problems to use it as a semi-daily driver.
I have the GT3 manual and if the weather was always warm all year in the place where I live, I would drive it on a daily basis.

The other good factor that it depreciates significantly slower having high milage on it than other cars in this price category and is extremely reliable even when you really push it hard.
Old 03-19-2020 | 01:57 AM
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The way things are going, I doubt you'll have to worry about adm or the like. Many buyers got burned this time around and with the economy now, you'll be in the driver's seat... literally and figuratively.
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Old 03-19-2020 | 11:14 AM
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Currently my investment portfolio is mostly retracted so this recession should not prevent the gt3s purchase.

To reply to Kart Driver's comment (sorry my computer crashes if I use quote feature), I am extremely glad to hear that daily driving is within the gt3s capabilities, as I much look forward to revving my car out to 9000 rpm on my way to get groceries.

I wonder if 992 gt3 will be manual?
Old 03-19-2020 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by TheGuy
Currently my investment portfolio is mostly retracted so this recession should not prevent the gt3s purchase.

To reply to Kart Driver's comment (sorry my computer crashes if I use quote feature), I am extremely glad to hear that daily driving is within the gt3s capabilities, as I much look forward to revving my car out to 9000 rpm on my way to get groceries.

I wonder if 992 gt3 will be manual?
There are a few videos floating around where you can clearly hear that manual is being tested. I would think after the blow back from not offering manual with the 991.1, that Porsche will continue to offer a manual option in this upcoming version.
Old 03-19-2020 | 12:50 PM
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I hope so.

Another benefit of the 992 will be the interior, I know it gets a lot of hate but from what I hear the gt3 will be a lot more comfortable. I drove a 992 C4s a while ago and it was a little soft for me hence the gt3.

Any opinions on touring vs. standard?
Old 03-19-2020 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by TheGuy
I hope so.

Another benefit of the 992 will be the interior, I know it gets a lot of hate but from what I hear the gt3 will be a lot more comfortable. I drove a 992 C4s a while ago and it was a little soft for me hence the gt3.

Any opinions on touring vs. standard?

992 c4s is waaaay to soft. I test drove it at the porsche event and I didn't like the feel of it unlike 991.2 GTS.

Touring or winged GT3 - is an endless debate ))

I prefer the winged GT3 because it is a better look than touring as per my liking. The winged GT3 is sporty and still has quite civilized look unlike GT3RS. But this is just my vision.

And there are so many others who believe that it is just touring, which is the best choice as it looks classy. And there will be others, who believe the RS is the best look ))
Old 03-20-2020 | 07:35 PM
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I would agree, the gt3 is the sweet spot.

About a year and a half ago I saw the 991.2 GT3RS in person and was blown away by its driving experience, when I got home from the track I got on Porsche USA's website and configured one (at the time I was not considering using it as a daily driver) I ended up checking the box for the Weissach Package, Magnesium Wheels, and as many interior amenities as I could. But, then I came to the summary and the next thing I read deterred me from buying the car: 7-Spd-Porsche-Doppelkupplungsgetriebe. I understand that this enables faster lap times and better acceleration numbers, however, if those were the things motivating my purchase, I would have bought a GT2RS.

The purpose of the GT3 is to be the driver's 911 and a pdk did not satisfy that claim.
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Old 03-22-2020 | 04:46 AM
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The 992 GT cars won't be out for a while.
Why not find a nice 991.2 GT3 manual to enjoy now? Probably could get a pretty decent deal on one.
And, having a GT car to trade for a new one is always a plus for dealers.
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Old 03-22-2020 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by TheGuy
Currently my investment portfolio is mostly retracted so this recession should not prevent the gt3s purchase.

To reply to Kart Driver's comment (sorry my computer crashes if I use quote feature), I am extremely glad to hear that daily driving is within the gt3s capabilities, as I much look forward to revving my car out to 9000 rpm on my way to get groceries.

I wonder if 992 gt3 will be manual?
I'm sure the new GT3 will ride like a Lexus compared to my daily driven 996 GT3.

As to what Porsche will offer for a transaxle, who knows, but the 991.2 came with a manual option after the 991.1 didn't. Porsche will throw the dart where the market money is. If manual 991.2 GT3s sold well, there will be an impetus to do it again.
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Old 03-23-2020 | 05:16 PM
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A few years ago you'd most likely get what you are asking for at sticker with patience or pretty quick at ~5% over sticker. Now it's looking like the economy could make it quite easy for you.

991.2 resale values may also fall simply because it's a luxury good in a weakening economy.

Most of us expect a 992 manual option to be offered but we don't know yet.

If you already have a "loud" car and want this to be a daily, the touring is more discreet. If you want it to be more fun for weekends the big spoiler adds a bit to the toy car effect. Both have their appeal. It depends on your personality, the other cars in your garage, and your intended usage. Selecting a bright or subdued color will probably make just as big of a difference as keeping or skipping the big wing.
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Old 03-28-2020 | 12:01 AM
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if you get a manual, get a touring,

if you want to track it, get a wing

if you want to get a car, get to know a dealer
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Old 03-28-2020 | 11:00 AM
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Great to see you back CJ!
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Originally Posted by odwa
Great to see you back CJ!
showrooms are slow so the internet department is back in business! lol
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Originally Posted by C.J. Ichiban
if you get a manual, get a touring,

if you want to track it, get a wing

if you want to get a car, get to know a dealer

Actually the new reality is the dealer getting to know you....arrogant dealers are on the way to history....


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