Dashcam - Front only or Front and Rear?
I'm having a Thinkware F770 installed this Friday.
I'm seeking advice from those who have bought both front and rear dashcams. Is the rear dashcams useful? Does it annoy you having the camera sticking out on the rear window? Or can they install it in a hidden way? |
I have Blackvue both front and back. The rear camera has a small footprint and not obtrusive at all. The Blackvue rear cam looks similar in size to the Thinkware.
If you don't use a rear view camera, you won't be able to memorialize crappy stuff like this: |
Originally Posted by Porsche_nuts
(Post 14192728)
I have Blackvue both front and back. The rear camera has a small footprint and not obtrusive at all. The Blackvue rear cam looks similar in size to the Thinkware.
If you don't use a rear view camera, you won't be able to memorialize crappy stuff like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-TSyyrOrB0 Rear camera totally worth it. You won't know you needed it till you need it. Plus it's more fun to watch, you already know what happened in front of you. But what do I know, on a flight I kinda like watching the channels which feature a feed from several camera angles. |
Originally Posted by Porsche_nuts
(Post 14192728)
I have Blackvue both front and back. The rear camera has a small footprint and not obtrusive at all. The Blackvue rear cam looks similar in size to the Thinkware.
If you don't use a rear view camera, you won't be able to memorialize crappy stuff like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-TSyyrOrB0 do you use the cloud feature of the blackvue? I chose think ware because of the 1080p rear camera, but it doesn't have the cloud (not until a new model comes out towards the end of the year). |
I have the feature but don't use it because you have to keep the unit powered on at all times and have to have a wifi unit in the car in order to use it (I think . . . Could never really figure out how to use it).
I have heard good things about Thinkware. If I had to do it all over again, I would probably go Thinkware and would still get rear cam. I can take a pic of my rear cam setup if you are interested. |
Originally Posted by Porsche_nuts
(Post 14193337)
I have the feature but don't use it because you have to keep the unit powered on at all times and have to have a wifi unit in the car in order to use it (I think . . . Could never really figure out how to use it).
I have heard good things about Thinkware. If I had to do it all over again, I would probably go Thinkware and would still get rear cam. I can take a pic of my rear cam setup if you are interested. |
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Originally Posted by stealthpilot
(Post 14193545)
Thanks. It would be nice to see how the rear cam is mounted, and also see what it looks like in the rear view mirror.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...6754c03408.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...43415bb164.jpg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...8987ff30c5.jpg First two photos are from the outside. Third from rear view and fourth I just turned around from the driver's seat and focused on it. It's not as obstructive as one would think, at least not for me. I have the cloud feature and I just bought the wifi hotspot. The alerts are helpful but I still need to figure out the best G-sensor settings. Currently, the motion detector is set to 8 and I get about 4 alerts an hour. When I get into the car in the morning, about 5 seconds after I shut the door, I get an impact alert which is good...tells me if someone is in the car. |
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Nick Murray has his rear camera mounted on the top left corner, closest to the top edge of the rear wiper.
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Originally Posted by pashaj
(Post 14193769)
First two photos are from the outside. Third from rear view and fourth I just turned around from the driver's seat and focused on it. It's not as obstructive as one would think, at least not for me.
I have the cloud feature and I just bought the wifi hotspot. The alerts are helpful but I still need to figure out the best G-sensor settings. Currently, the motion detector is set to 8 and I get about 4 alerts an hour. When I get into the car in the morning, about 5 seconds after I shut the door, I get an impact alert which is good...tells me if someone is in the car. Are those Lloyd's Ultimats you have there? I have a feeling the rear camera won't be visible on my car from the outside given my 35% tint. |
Originally Posted by Porsche_nuts
(Post 14193969)
Stealth, Pashja's pics are better than mine, so you get the idea. Small footprint. I included one looking straight at camera from the back of car. You can't tell because of the picture angle, but the cam in centered on the rear window.
To install, I ran wire on driver side headliner, under weatherstripping on driver door, down the B pillar, in the crevices by the rear seat to the back then back up through the side of the rear window and up under the roof liner by the rear window. Use a plastic trim tool to get wire in crevices. I also include a pic of location of my front cam. Sorry for the reflections. |
Originally Posted by stealthpilot
(Post 14194335)
Thanks. Looks great. I will do a similar install. The cloud feature sounds useful. I may upgrade the Thinkware when they release their cloud version (later this year).
Are those Lloyd's Ultimats you have there? I have a feeling the rear camera won't be visible on my car from the outside given my 35% tint. Yes, Lloyd's mats. Just a small touch. |
Nothing for cabs :/
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Originally Posted by R_Rated
(Post 14194524)
Nothing for cabs :/
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I have the dual Thinkware F770. The rear camera mounted at the top of the rear window is not noticed at all. I mounted the front camera in the right side (inside perspective) nook behind the mirror and just below the black tint along the top of the window. You do not want to mount it in the middle directly under the mirror otherwise it will obstruct your view. Behind the mirror makes it invisible from the driver's perspective and you still have access to the components.
Yes, the rear camera has good purpose, for example rear end collision; theft approached from the rear, etc, I have this dashcam in both of my cars. It is excellent. The only issue is video gaps on very twisty roads. Apparently, due to significant rapid image variations, the data is too high. I don't know if it is the fault of the codec or the SD card delivered with the dashcam. I just replaced the SD card with a very fast SanDisk Extreme PRO UHS-I/U3, but I haven't driven on the twisty since the replacement. I will this weekend and will update the result. BTW, when I say very twisty, I mean extremely twisty like Dragon's Tail. 99.9% of roads in this country don't come close to this kind of twisty. We who are near the Smokey Mountains are fortunate to have such roads. This is the only reason why I bought a 911. |
Originally Posted by babyjocko
(Post 14194570)
I have the dual Thinkware F770. The rear camera mounted at the top of the rear window is not noticed at all. I mounted the front camera in the right side (inside perspective) nook behind the mirror and just below the black tint along the top of the window. You do not want to mount it in the middle directly under the mirror otherwise it will obstruct your view. Behind the mirror makes it invisible from the driver's perspective and you still have access to the components.
Yes, the rear camera has good purpose, for example rear end collision; theft approached from the rear, etc, I have this dashcam in both of my cars. It is excellent. The only issue is video gaps on very twisty roads. Apparently, due to significant rapid image variations, the data is too high. I don't know if it is the fault of the codec or the SD card delivered with the dashcam. I just replaced the SD card with a very fast SanDisk Extreme PRO UHS-I/U3, but I haven't driven on the twisty since the replacement. I will this weekend and will update the result. BTW, when I say very twisty, I mean extremely twisty like Dragon's Tail. 99.9% of roads in this country don't come close to this kind of twisty. We who are near the Smokey Mountains are fortunate to have such roads. This is the only reason why I bought a 911. |
Originally Posted by stealthpilot
(Post 14194841)
Hey we're doing a run to Blood Mountain this weekend. Do you want to join? Are you on our Atlanta 911 Facebook Group?
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I have front and rear because you can never be too safe
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Originally Posted by Daohaus
I have front and rear because you can never be too safe
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By the way, I had the Thinkware F770 installed in my Tesla by CarTunes. CarTunes prices are just way too high. So, I had Benchmark Soundworks in Alpharetta install the same in my 911. They did it for $125.
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+1 on the blackvue.
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Originally Posted by babyjocko
(Post 14195543)
By the way, I had the Thinkware F770 installed in my Tesla by CarTunes. CarTunes prices are just way too high. So, I had Benchmark Soundworks in Alpharetta install the same in my 911. They did it for $125.
It's surprising because their price for the radar and jammer install was identical, and on that the work by cartunes was better (e.g. they used more sturdy custom brackets to mount sensors rather than simply tape used by benchmark when they did my Jag and BMW). |
Originally Posted by babyjocko
(Post 14195543)
By the way, I had the Thinkware F770 installed in my Tesla by CarTunes. CarTunes prices are just way too high. So, I had Benchmark Soundworks in Alpharetta install the same in my 911. They did it for $125.
I got the F770 installed now but I can't get the viewer to work on my iMac. Do you use a mac? |
Originally Posted by stealthpilot
(Post 14197775)
Did you get the info for the meetup tomorrow?
I got the F770 installed now but I can't get the viewer to work on my iMac. Do you use a mac? Sorry, I don't do Mac. Actually, the viewer is a decent app. Did you insert a high speed SD card or are you using the one provided by Thinkware. When we hit the rapid curves, it will test the high speed SD card I recently installed. It had been gapping video bigtime around those curves -- and only around those curves (where the rocks are). I hope the gapping is not due the the codec. We shall see. |
Originally Posted by babyjocko
Yes, will meet tomorrow in Cumming.
Sorry, I don't do Mac. Actually, the viewer is a decent app. Did you insert a high speed SD card or are you using the one provided by Thinkware. When we hit the rapid curves, it will test the high speed SD card I recently installed. It had been gapping video bigtime around those curves -- and only around those curves (where the rocks are). I hope the gapping is not due the the codec. We shall see. I didn't get a card over 100mbps because the F770 doesn't support those. Hope this one works out tomorrow. I may bring the thinkware one as a backup. |
What is the general consensus of where to install a rear facing camera in convertible, assuming you drive with the top down most of the time? which model?
thank you |
Originally Posted by stealthpilot
(Post 14197941)
I took out the Thinkware one and put in a Samsung Evo Pro Select 64gb which is supposed to be a high speed card (95mbps) with extreme durability.
I didn't get a card over 100mbps because the F770 doesn't support those. Hope this one works out tomorrow. I may bring the thinkware one as a backup. The incident recordings have the video, but what it does is overlaps with pre-roll. That's good when it is an actual incident -- not so good when trying to fill in the missing gaps from continuous recording. BTW, the drive was great today. I will post video soon. |
Originally Posted by babyjocko
(Post 14199001)
And, you are correct, the video gap is substituted by incident recording. I wish I had known that a long time ago. I've adjusted the sensitivity settings to minimum.
The incident recordings have the video, but what it does is overlaps with pre-roll. That's good when it is an actual incident -- not so good when trying to fill in the missing gaps from continuous recording. BTW, the drive was great today. I will post video soon. |
Originally Posted by LCW
(Post 14198929)
What is the general consensus of where to install a rear facing camera in convertible, assuming you drive with the top down most of the time? which model?
thank you https://rennlist.com/forums/991/9645...l#post13801320 |
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