JawJuh

Found an interesting article by a bored journalist:

http://www.motortrend.com/news/13-co...7-porsche-911/

Google Auto vs Apple CarPlay is the most surprising one for me. Didn't know Google was such a Big Brother.

CSK 911 C4S

Nice little run through.

Hurricane

Very interesting article!

cug

In that case it's not about BigBrother - it's about stealing the secret sauce from other manufacturers.

PantsFire

The whole emissions thing is going to keep all the best cars in limited runs which is a great pity, hopefully the mission e and other all electric vehicles will help redress the balance and stop turbos killing all the fun.

sticky

Wow what a poor article.

The author mentions the weight gain on the motor but fails to mention all the weight saving measures in the 9A2. The difference is not 77 pounds:

Regarding the engine 'right sizing' comments they do not even make sense. The engine architecture is modular to cut costs. That doesn't suddenly mean the GT3 motor is the wrong size.

This person also acts like PS vs. HP is some huge revelation?

The drive mode selector feels cheap? How? Based on what? It feels perfectly fine to me.

Why exactly do the air intakes not work and why to they have to mimic the turbo? Zero engineering reasoning provided just an opinion that it should look like the 911 Turbo.

Regarding the Sport Response button, it only drops gears when in automatic mode. Not in manual. Another error.

Poor article IMO.

Syringe

I was struck by the statement at the end, of Carrera S models outselling the base models 9:1 on earlier occasions.

Drifting

I was too, although historically the 911 has always been down on power vs it's main competitors, so a lot of customers who want feel of driving a 911 likely opted for the S, to get more power as well. However, now with the 991.2, for the first time in the water cooled era the base 911 has plenty of power.

Although the article also suggested that Porsche wants to attract more buyers of the base 911. I'm not so sure as I think Porsche just wants more money.

If Porsche really wanted more base 911 buyers, then they would have made rear axle steering available as an option for the base 911, and not just for the S and GTS.

ipse dixit

I think alot of the disparity between the sales volume between the 991.1 911 base and S models is what dealers spec and order. Rarely, do you see a nicely optioned base 911 on a dealer lot. I would venture to guess that most 991.2 911 C2 or C4 models were specc'd by the customer.

Drifting

That could very well be the case as the dealers just spec to the average customer only.

I went shopping with a friend this year for a 991.2 C2 and was annoyed that none of the dealer cars were equipped with rear wheel steering or sport suspension. I convinced my friend that both were worth waiting for, particularly the rear wheel steering so he's ordering his own car.

worf928

What's the distribution of 911 sales in terms of Base vs. S/GTS vs. Turbo/S?

Anyone? I'm going to bet it doesn't follow a commodity-like price/volume curve.

kayjh

I would agree with this. In Canada, it seems dealer allocations are even tighter than they are in the US. When you look at all the cars at (or arriving) at Canadian dealers right now, you will have a hard time locating a base car. While it obviously reflects demand, if a dealer only gets 20 911s in 2017, it is likely to take the "S" models and add a fair number of options to increase its gross profit per unit.

Last year when I was looking for a base car, I couldn't find one new and used cars were loaded with options with asking prices higher than new base cars, so I waited until this year and ordered a C4 base.

cug

The cars I found at the dealers where disappointing to me. They might reflect the average customer which would then make me go back and think about whether I want to be put in the same bucket as a "Porsche Owner" ... anyways, I had to order my base 911, as dealers seem to think that buyers of base models don't want any options at all and buy the base model only if it's just above base price. Mine is very nicely accessorized, but for comfort rather than performance as I don't have the illusion of racing my car – I live in it every day.

JustBud

R rated is your name Jonny Lieberman??

cug

No, and I didn't get the "poverty package" either ... ;-)