Is Rear Axle Steering a must have option for .2 GTS?
08-11-2020, 03:59 PM
#46
It might have been stated in the previous posts. RAS wants to get neutral under braking. This is a really odd experience. So it will help you turn into corner but when braking it will try to make the rear neutral. You can see yt vids of the steering wheel shudder for no reason. Its not the track. Its the RAS going to neutral under braking.
For me, because of intention to keep car for a long time, this a box not checked when car was ordered. Can't imagine what a repair cost would be if RAS needed.
For me, because of intention to keep car for a long time, this a box not checked when car was ordered. Can't imagine what a repair cost would be if RAS needed.
08-11-2020, 04:36 PM
#47
Resurrecting an old thread but just having got my car I can say that I'd rather have a C2S with rear wheel steer for performance than a GTS without rear steer. It's that good. You're much more likely to notice and make use of rear steer on roads and track than you would out of the extra boost you get from a GTS.
its all in details with Porsche... its a shame you have to OPTION out to get max performance...
They give all the magazine cars versions with Sport Package etc
Sport Package (P3P)
- Includes:
- [529] SportDesign Exterior Mirrors.
- And.
- [470] Rear Axle Steering.
- And.
- [640] Sport Chrono Package.
- And.
- [176] Sport Exhaust System.
Got to pay attention to the options when buying used.
08-11-2020, 07:10 PM
#48
After market companies created a RAS delete for a reason. There was demand. I’m sure i read of a few failures at the track and GT3 guys removing it. It appears quite simple. Its replaced with straight bar with rose joints. Just like the others. There isn’t much too it like FAL. It appears to just be a little motor on the bar. Replace with a fixed bar.
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08-12-2020, 06:05 PM
#50
Because you know they ran them for 1,000 of hours at green hell and never had a problem with RWS.... I call bllSHT
GT2 RS, GT3 RS, AMG GTR... Ferrari TDF just a few record setting cars with RWS.
RWS is not on FIA GT cars because it is against the class rules...
nothing more than blah blah race cars don't have it
same reason why race cars dont have active aero or suction fans...
Never ever think race cars don't have it means its bad.. race cars are designed within the "rules" and regulations of the class... period.
RWS works, silly to think it doesn't
08-12-2020, 08:22 PM
#52
Rennlist Member
I did not check the box and don’t regret it. The two cars I drove with felt odd and I did not care for it. I also don’t need a belt driven actuator controlling my rear toe. Just a personal feeling.
08-12-2020, 08:46 PM
#53
Rennlist Member
I also didn't check the box and don't regret it. I wanted a purist spec, with less computers controlling my driving inputs. (I also got a manual)
This car isn't hard to park at all, so that's an irrelevant benefit to me. I also track the car and it's amazing without RAS as well.
This car isn't hard to park at all, so that's an irrelevant benefit to me. I also track the car and it's amazing without RAS as well.
08-12-2020, 08:55 PM
#54
Burning Brakes
I also didn't check the box and don't regret it. I wanted a purist spec, with less computers controlling my driving inputs. (I also got a manual)
This car isn't hard to park at all, so that's an irrelevant benefit to me. I also track the car and it's amazing without RAS as well.
This car isn't hard to park at all, so that's an irrelevant benefit to me. I also track the car and it's amazing without RAS as well.
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08-12-2020, 09:20 PM
#55
Three Wheelin'
not must have but it completes the 991.2 experience imo, I'd only not go with it if driving them b2b & doesn't like the feel
08-12-2020, 09:23 PM
#56
Three Wheelin'
And if you're doing tight maneuver constantly, the added agility will be highly appreciated
08-12-2020, 09:29 PM
#57
Three Wheelin'
It is superior to fixed axel in every way and there is no denying that. Just like PDK is superior to Manual. Whether or not you appreciate it, desire it, feel its worth the money or prefer to remain a purist and "one with the road" is another issue completely. Its allows for quicker and more acute turn angles in both low and high speed turns. PDK allows for faster shifts and in every test against a manual in every category its faster. There is no argument regarding feeling more grounded or in control as that is subjective, but from a pure numbers viewpoint PDK is faster and RAS allows the car to turn more sharply more quickly. Facts.
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08-12-2020, 09:47 PM
#58
Pro
And RAS for turn in dials itself out as your speed increases to 31 mph when becomes neutral to 50+ mph (when does the opposite). I don't take my turns that slow outside of town, and I don't need the assist in town.
08-12-2020, 10:00 PM
#59
Pro
It is superior to fixed axel in every way and there is no denying that. Just like PDK is superior to Manual. Whether or not you appreciate it, desire it, feel its worth the money or prefer to remain a purist and "one with the road" is another issue completely. Its allows for quicker and more acute turn angles in both low and high speed turns. PDK allows for faster shifts and in every test against a manual in every category its faster. There is no argument regarding feeling more grounded or in control as that is subjective, but from a pure numbers viewpoint PDK is faster and RAS allows the car to turn more sharply more quickly. Facts.
08-12-2020, 10:07 PM
#60
Three Wheelin'
For me superior is anything that can be done to a car to make it perform better. Better meaning faster, more precise handling, shorter stopping distances, etc
Not having ABS for example may be much more fun for you to drive and require a better skillset to control, but it is in no way superior to having ABS.
Not having ABS for example may be much more fun for you to drive and require a better skillset to control, but it is in no way superior to having ABS.