2020 NEXT GENERATION 992 SPY PICS & RELEASE
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So am I. I think the 992 is shaping up to be a fantastic looking car. I really like the wider stance and the ridge lines on the hood. Very nice.
#872
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Hmmmmm could one extrapolate that they might even have this because.... there will be a awd and a 2wd Turbo version
#873
It's looking like all 992s will have lightbars. Just like the new Panamera.
#874
If a styling queue bombs,....the whole lineup is affected. Recently happened to Acura (their previous fugly front end), yet manufactures continue to do it. Why can't a 911 have it's own identity through and through, do something different compared to just copying another model in the lineup.
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Does anyone think this is a disturbing trend? Like a 911 must look like Panamera, that must look like the Cayenne,....and so on. I know brand identity is important, but must everything in a builders lineup have the exact same styling queues across cars, SUVs, etc? Read somewhere that Lexus doing this actually backfired due to most people not liking the new grill that seems to adorn all new Lexus vehicles.
If a styling queue bombs,....the whole lineup is affected. Recently happened to Acura (their previous fugly front end), yet manufactures continue to do it. Why can't a 911 have it's own identity through and through, do something different compared to just copying another model in the lineup.
If a styling queue bombs,....the whole lineup is affected. Recently happened to Acura (their previous fugly front end), yet manufactures continue to do it. Why can't a 911 have it's own identity through and through, do something different compared to just copying another model in the lineup.
Agree on the Lexus/Acura comments. Fugly.
#876
Does anyone think this is a disturbing trend? Like a 911 must look like Panamera, that must look like the Cayenne,....and so on. I know brand identity is important, but must everything in a builders lineup have the exact same styling queues across cars, SUVs, etc? Read somewhere that Lexus doing this actually backfired due to most people not liking the new grill that seems to adorn all new Lexus vehicles.
If a styling queue bombs,....the whole lineup is affected. Recently happened to Acura (their previous fugly front end), yet manufactures continue to do it. Why can't a 911 have it's own identity through and through, do something different compared to just copying another model in the lineup.
If a styling queue bombs,....the whole lineup is affected. Recently happened to Acura (their previous fugly front end), yet manufactures continue to do it. Why can't a 911 have it's own identity through and through, do something different compared to just copying another model in the lineup.
#877
Does anyone think this is a disturbing trend? Like a 911 must look like Panamera, that must look like the Cayenne,....and so on. I know brand identity is important, but must everything in a builders lineup have the exact same styling queues across cars, SUVs, etc? Read somewhere that Lexus doing this actually backfired due to most people not liking the new grill that seems to adorn all new Lexus vehicles.
If a styling queue bombs,....the whole lineup is affected. Recently happened to Acura (their previous fugly front end), yet manufactures continue to do it. Why can't a 911 have it's own identity through and through, do something different compared to just copying another model in the lineup.
If a styling queue bombs,....the whole lineup is affected. Recently happened to Acura (their previous fugly front end), yet manufactures continue to do it. Why can't a 911 have it's own identity through and through, do something different compared to just copying another model in the lineup.
I personally think the 991.1 has been the best 911 after the classic line, the .2 has exterior changes from .1 that I didn't like at all especially on the GT line (except the front hood in the RS spy shots)
#878
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As you know, some of these styling cues are starting on the other models and ending up on the 911. They're all inbred. I think it helps sell the various models and plus saves them $$ when you have common components.
#880
I think an important key to a great looking car is giving the designer latitude to use or ignore shared design elements, not “ok use these side swoops with headlight X and taillight Z, this interior, these doors” and expect it to come out well.
The flip side is when you buy a mass-market regular car like a Ford or VW or whatever you get interior quality, performance, etc that really is a lot closer to like nicer cars than the mass-market cars of the past were to their more expensive equivalents.
#881
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Remember how in the original Terminator Sarah Connor meets her son John Connor's best friend Kyle for the first time as a grown man when he comes back from the future to protect her from the killbot that's trying to kill her so John (the future leader of The Resistance) won't be born? And she ***** him and gets knocked up and it turns out that Kyle is now both John's best friend (in the future) and father (now)?
Okay. We're talking about 992, right. Anybody remember what the rear of a 993 looks like?
ummhmmm. Full light bar on all models.
So is it possible -- remember, stick with me here -- is it possible the 992 HAS to evolve the full rear light bar so that the 993 will naturally have it as well? (which, as we know, is a fait accompli.)
Something to think about.
#882
Here's something to consider. Stick with me now.
Remember how in the original Terminator Sarah Connor meets her son John Connor's best friend Kyle for the first time as a grown man when he comes back from the future to protect her from the killbot that's trying to kill her so John (the future leader of The Resistance) won't be born? And she ***** him and gets knocked up and it turns out that Kyle is now both John's best friend (in the future) and father (now)?
Okay. We're talking about 992, right. Anybody remember what the rear of a 993 looks like?
ummhmmm. Full light bar on all models.
So is it possible -- remember, stick with me here -- is it possible the 992 HAS to evolve the full rear light bar so that the 993 will naturally have it as well? (which, as we know, is a fait accompli.)
Something to think about.
Remember how in the original Terminator Sarah Connor meets her son John Connor's best friend Kyle for the first time as a grown man when he comes back from the future to protect her from the killbot that's trying to kill her so John (the future leader of The Resistance) won't be born? And she ***** him and gets knocked up and it turns out that Kyle is now both John's best friend (in the future) and father (now)?
Okay. We're talking about 992, right. Anybody remember what the rear of a 993 looks like?
ummhmmm. Full light bar on all models.
So is it possible -- remember, stick with me here -- is it possible the 992 HAS to evolve the full rear light bar so that the 993 will naturally have it as well? (which, as we know, is a fait accompli.)
Something to think about.
964 though:
Don't see the problem with the light bar on all models/trims.
#883
The Lexus article was on Carbuzz: Old Lexus Owners Called To Complain About The New Radical Styling
I personally think the 991.1 has been the best 911 after the classic line, the .2 has exterior changes from .1 that I didn't like at all especially on the GT line (except the front hood in the RS spy shots)
I personally think the 991.1 has been the best 911 after the classic line, the .2 has exterior changes from .1 that I didn't like at all especially on the GT line (except the front hood in the RS spy shots)
Hope the 911 doesn't get transformed into something Porsche fans hate.
#884
Does anyone think this is a disturbing trend? Like a 911 must look like Panamera, that must look like the Cayenne,....and so on. I know brand identity is important, but must everything in a builders lineup have the exact same styling queues across cars, SUVs, etc? Read somewhere that Lexus doing this actually backfired due to most people not liking the new grill that seems to adorn all new Lexus vehicles.
If a styling queue bombs,....the whole lineup is affected. Recently happened to Acura (their previous fugly front end), yet manufactures continue to do it. Why can't a 911 have it's own identity through and through, do something different compared to just copying another model in the lineup.
If a styling queue bombs,....the whole lineup is affected. Recently happened to Acura (their previous fugly front end), yet manufactures continue to do it. Why can't a 911 have it's own identity through and through, do something different compared to just copying another model in the lineup.
I think the problem is more design by committee than shared design elements. The 308/F355/F50/360/456/etc all have the same taillights with no issues, and they’ve had a lot worse taillight designs since they went away from that. But then you try to make a Panamera look like it has a 911 back end because it’s pre-determined they’ll share design language and it looks terrible, yet on the 911 it’s one of the greatest design shapes of all time. I like the Macan taillights but don’t love them shoehorned into a 991.1 taillight hole to get the .2.
I think an important key to a great looking car is giving the designer latitude to use or ignore shared design elements, not “ok use these side swoops with headlight X and taillight Z, this interior, these doors” and expect it to come out well.
The flip side is when you buy a mass-market regular car like a Ford or VW or whatever you get interior quality, performance, etc that really is a lot closer to like nicer cars than the mass-market cars of the past were to their more expensive equivalents.
#885
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Thread Starter
http://www.automobilemag.com/news/porsches-reinvention/
Looks like end of the NA GT3 too. I can't wait to read those posts in the future, they are already starting.
A quote:
"What Blume does not mention is the fact that this 911, codenamed 992, is probably the last of its kind. The 911 after it will almost certainly be based on a vehicle architecture called SAZ--VW Group shorthand for sports car platform of the future.
While the 992 will essentially be a straightforward evolution of the current 911, the SAZ-based version would be built on a platform designed to have the flexibility to underpin a variety of vehicles. The next 911 will therefore be the last built on a unique platform."
Looks like end of the NA GT3 too. I can't wait to read those posts in the future, they are already starting.
A quote:
"What Blume does not mention is the fact that this 911, codenamed 992, is probably the last of its kind. The 911 after it will almost certainly be based on a vehicle architecture called SAZ--VW Group shorthand for sports car platform of the future.
While the 992 will essentially be a straightforward evolution of the current 911, the SAZ-based version would be built on a platform designed to have the flexibility to underpin a variety of vehicles. The next 911 will therefore be the last built on a unique platform."