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Old Dec 27, 2016 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Churchill
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So much internet hysteria about using summer tires in winter. They're fine. You just can't push it quite as hard. On a cold morning you've got, say, 80 percent of normal grip, which is still twice as much grip as almost every other car on the road.
I was very cautious when I first used my new '13 C2S when it was near freezing a few weeks ago, had no problems at all. Plenty of grip.
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Old Dec 27, 2016 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Churchill
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So much internet hysteria about using summer tires in winter. They're fine. You just can't push it quite as hard. On a cold morning you've got, say, 80 percent of normal grip, which is still twice as much grip as almost every other car on the road.
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No, they're not. If he's looking at a few cold days a year, he'll be fine on the OEM tires. Just drive carefully and judiciously.

Generally I would agree. I do it on my 981 but I definitely notice a loss of grip and wheel hop while accelerating hard.


If you are driving on ice or snow, there is no way I would be on summer tires.
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Old Dec 27, 2016 | 01:26 PM
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I do it on my 981 but I definitely notice a loss of grip and wheel hop while accelerating hard.

If you are driving on ice or snow, there is no way I would be on summer tires.
Agree with both. If I hammer my car in a low gear when it's 35 degrees out, I get some wheel hop. Easily avoided by not flooring it off the line.

Those who drive their cars regularly in real winter conditions (i.e. snow and ice), yes, get snow tires.
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Old Dec 27, 2016 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Archimedes
No, they're not. If he's looking at a few cold days a year, he'll be fine on the OEM tires. Just drive carefully and judiciously.
Great picture! I am not sure there are any driving hazards in it though, other people driving and texting, deer crossing unexpectedly or those sort of weird things that threaten my defensive driving abilities. Thus I choose to have winter tires in the cool seasons. No doubt it IS possible to drive in winter on summer tires.
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Old Dec 27, 2016 | 04:37 PM
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Great picture! I am not sure there are any driving hazards in it though, other people driving and texting, deer crossing unexpectedly or those sort of weird things that threaten my defensive driving abilities. Thus I choose to have winter tires in the cool seasons. No doubt it IS possible to drive in winter on summer tires.
Jump over to the "Too cold to deliver my car?" thread in the GT3 forum and see what some of the guys there are using in sub-freezing temps. They seem to be surviving on R compound tires. Methinks a summer performance tire is fine as long as you're not actually on ice or deep snow.

Anybody notice the Viper ACR that just set the Nurburging record on R compound tires...in 29 degree F weather?
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Old Dec 27, 2016 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Churchill
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So much internet hysteria about using summer tires in winter. They're fine. You just can't push it quite as hard. On a cold morning you've got, say, 80 percent of normal grip, which is still twice as much grip as almost every other car on the road.
I sincerely hope this doesn't come back and bite you the first time you get some cold rain.
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Old Dec 27, 2016 | 06:35 PM
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Clearance will become an issue before you NEED all week drive.
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Old Dec 27, 2016 | 06:38 PM
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I sincerely hope this doesn't come back and bite you the first time you get some cold rain.
Drove my RS5 in wet sub freezing temps all last winter on PZeros, nary an issue. Slow down a bit, drive a bit more carefully, all will be fine.
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Old Dec 27, 2016 | 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Needsdecaf
I sincerely hope this doesn't come back and bite you the first time you get some cold rain.
Son, I grew up in a mountainous, very cold part of the US that had snow on the ground six months out of the year. Through high school and college I drove beaters that barely had treads on the tires. I think I'll be okay with a little rain.
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Your car can take care of itself -- and you -- as long as you drive according to the conditions.

The only tires that matter are the ones on the car coming up behind you at the stoplight, driven by some moron who has never internalized the previous bit of advice.
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Old Dec 28, 2016 | 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Archimedes
Drove my RS5 in wet sub freezing temps all last winter on PZeros, nary an issue. Slow down a bit, drive a bit more carefully, all will be fine.
A risk I would not take.

Originally Posted by Churchill
Son, I grew up in a mountainous, very cold part of the US that had snow on the ground six months out of the year. Through high school and college I drove beaters that barely had treads on the tires. I think I'll be okay with a little rain.
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