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Old 12-19-2016, 04:46 PM
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Default Pricing advice on 2014 991 S + Rev report help

Looking at the following car, clean carfax, 2 owners, only 3650 miles, no CPO.
Rev report included below, not sure how to read the thing!
What would you guys offer?

Porsche
2014 Porsche 911 Carrera S
Prod Month:
06/2013
Price:
$123,540.00
Exterior:
White
Interior:
Standard Interior in Black
Warranty Start:
December 02, 2013
Additional Equipment
030
PASM Sport Suspension
0Q
White
176
Sport Exhaust System
250
Porsche Doppelkupplung (PDK)
342
Seat heating (front)
423
20" Carrera S Wheels
446
Wheel center caps with colored Porsche Crest
581
Luggage net in passenger footwell
583
Smoking package
603
Porsche Dynamic Light System (PDLS)
640
Sport Chrono Package
653
Electric Slide/Tilt Sunroof in Glass
840
SportDesign steering wheel
AG
Standard Interior in Black
P3H
BOSE® Audio Package
XAT
SportDesign package
XDA
Wheels Painted in Black
XEX
Bi-Xenon™ headlights in Black incl. Porsche Dynamic Light System (PDLS)





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$80K feels about right to me.

With the PDK, the system will prevent any serious over revs, but others can chime in on what the various levels mean. To my knowledge, levels 1 and 2 are within the normal rev range below redline, so I believe you are fine.

In the PDK reports, I am not sure if level 3 (which you have none) would indicate the bumping of the rev limiter or not, but in any event, you have none there so no worries.











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Old 12-19-2016, 06:49 PM
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$75-80k if in perfect condition. PDK so no way to get a bad overrun I believe.
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Originally Posted by Archimedes
$75-80k if in perfect condition. PDK so no way to get a bad overrun I believe.
I offered 75K, let's see what happens.

In reading the carfax report, it looks like the car has been sitting for the last year....barely adding 300 miles to the odometer. Should this be a concern?
Old 12-19-2016, 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by paxton
I offered 75K, let's see what happens.

In reading the carfax report, it looks like the car has been sitting for the last year....barely adding 300 miles to the odometer. Should this be a concern?
No not necessarily..If its been sitting for awhile maybe a lower price may be had if dealer is motivated. Say $70k? GLWB
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Just saw the 2 owners. That's a little odd in so few miles.

I would definitely get a PPI at another dealer before I bought.
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Solid build. DME looks good- no runs in the 3+.

I bet they're wanting 65% of msrp plus a little for mileage assuming it's a dealer so ~$82? If it's private, high 70s. If you get it for 75 I'd consider that a good to great deal. BOL!
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Originally Posted by jkfuel
Solid build. DME looks good- no runs in the 3+.

I bet they're wanting 65% of msrp plus a little for mileage assuming it's a dealer so ~$82? If it's private, high 70s. If you get it for 75 I'd consider that a good to great deal. BOL!
82-85 is my estimate with the miles assuming condition in line with miles. Odd that they won't CPO the car given the miles. Beautiful car with some nice options. Ducktail is rare in the wild.
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Originally Posted by R_Rated
82-85 is my estimate with the miles assuming condition in line with miles. Odd that they won't CPO the car given the miles. Beautiful car with some nice options. Ducktail is rare in the wild.
Not a Porsche dealer hence no CPO option.
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Report looks good! $85K
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$85k is nuts IMO. I bought a similar MSRP '14 C2S, a year ago, brand new, full warranty, for $96k. I have similar miles on mine and I wouldn't get a dime over $75k for it today.

OP, I wouldn't pay a dime over $75k for this car. There is always another car out there.
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One observation - the total service miles on the DME report indicates 7029 km, which is 4367 miles. you indicated the mileage as lower at 3650. That's odd. Divide total operating hours by mileage and see if it makes sense. A city car will average approx 25-30 mph.

Are you sure that this report belongs to this car, there should be a VIN # on the report? Does it match?

The range two ignitions are meaningless as the engine ran at 7500-7700 for 2.9 seconds. This likely the only occurrence in the history of the car.

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Originally Posted by Archimedes
$75-80k if in perfect condition. PDK so no way to get a bad overrun I believe.
On a side note...there was a thread up the other day about DME reports and it had a link to an article that talked about one condition where PDK could actually suffer an overrev.

Apparently if you shift to too low a gear while going downhill really fast and you don't upshift at redline, the transmission can mechanically overrev despite having a PDK transmission.

To keep this thread on topic...$75K is probably fair for that car with those miles but no CPO.
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Well optioned car, assuming no hidden paintwork etc I'd say mid to high 70s is fair with no warranty.

I paid mid low 80s for mine a year ago with CPO and similar MSRP, 9K miles.
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Originally Posted by 991carreradriver
One observation - the total service miles on the DME report indicates 7029 km, which is 4367 miles. you indicated the mileage as lower at 3650. That's odd. Divide total operating hours by mileage and see if it makes sense. A city car will average approx 25-30 mph.

Are you sure that this report belongs to this car, there should be a VIN # on the report? Does it match?

The range two ignitions are meaningless as the engine ran at 7500-7700 for 2.9 seconds. This likely the only occurrence in the history of the car.
Thanks for noticing. The VIN is matching. I'll ask them why the discrepancy between service miles and mileage on the odometer.


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