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KenTO 10-13-2016 09:50 PM

I got the 991.2 Targa 4 instead of the the 4S, as it has less (in sport mode undetectable) turbo lag, and as I have a MT my shifting is probably not fast enough to take advantage of the extra hp. I use mine as a daily driver and it is plenty fast enough, in fact the new 991.2 Targa 4 is as fast as the 991.1 Targa GTS. I could have afforded the 4S but couldn't justify the extra expense for an engine with the same displacement. The Targa is also more of a GT than track car and the base engine suits its character.

Keadog 10-13-2016 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by subshooter (Post 13673067)
I'd pass on the front lift since you do not have SPASM (cant get with Targa anyway) and bag the 4WS. Not worth it unless you are trying to get 0.1 secs on a lap.

S or base is fine. The Base Targa even with its weight will be faster than your 981. Do you need anything faster?

Everything else is a thumbs up.

Don't care about lap times, but boy I have scraped lots of Porsches over the years. The FAL seems like a no-brainer. Lots of speed bumps around me.
Agree on the 4WS. Had it on my TT and can't say I ever noticed it.

KenTO 10-13-2016 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by LCW (Post 13673082)
IMHO the Lane Change Assist is a must have these days.

I disagree with you. I found it the most annoying option on my previous Merc. It would often go off when in fact I could do a safe lane change, and then I would self-doubt myself and overcorrect. I find with proper side mirror placement (wide and not able to see your own car) and a quick glance to the side, I am a safer driver. As far as useless options go, I put it up there with easy access, which I think was designed for women with purses who couldn't find their keys buried inside.

Keadog 10-13-2016 09:55 PM


Originally Posted by LCW (Post 13673082)
IMHO the Lane Change Assist is a must have these days.

It annoys the hell out of me on my S550. I'm looking all the time and hate the beeps. Would never pay to be annoyed.

pfbz 10-13-2016 09:56 PM

No kidding... I hate lane nannies. I much prefer situational awareness and mirrors correctly adjusted!

Keadog 10-13-2016 09:57 PM


Originally Posted by go.illini (Post 13673084)
Graphite Blue metallic for the win.

Obviously a very personal question. For me it comes down to how I would use the car. It is already well established the base 991.2 is hella fast. I would argue that for "spirited" driving the base will be plenty of car.

I don't see the point of Sport Chrono on a base car (unless you like the look of the dash pod). I would ditch that and probably the PTV and put in PSE. But you're not building my car...

SC gives rev matching for resale. Have PTV on the Boxster and will probably delete it. Thanks.
PSE: I refuse to pay to sound louder. I often turn it off on my BGTS.

Keadog 10-13-2016 09:59 PM


Originally Posted by Fasttr (Post 13673134)
In the .1 world, I opted for the S for the larger displacement engine.

In the .2 world, since its 3.0 vs 3.0, I'd save my $$$ and opt for the Base. Tests seem to show the Base is plenty of car for most.

BTW....saw a Graphite Blue Targa .1 in Park City this summer ....wowzer .... really hot color and great combo with the Targa bar. Great choice there!!

Thanks. Most underrate stock color in a long time, IMO.

Keadog 10-13-2016 10:01 PM


Originally Posted by pfbz (Post 13673153)
I think on the .2's, non-S versions are still mighty quick and satisfying... If it was a previous generation 991.1, I'd say the S is a must, but the new non S cars are a home run IMHO.

If you really want a targa top, seems like the non-S Targa is the way to go. Definitely not as 'sporty' as the 4S with more weight up top and lower power, but still plenty of performance unless you are thinking lap times on track days.

Thanks and, nope. I've coupes and cabs but never a Targa. Thought I would try one.

Keadog 10-13-2016 10:02 PM


Originally Posted by KenTO (Post 13673756)
I got the 991.2 Targa 4 instead of the the 4S, as it has less (in sport mode undetectable) turbo lag, and as I have a MT my shifting is probably not fast enough to take advantage of the extra hp. I use mine as a daily driver and it is plenty fast enough, in fact the new 991.2 Targa 4 is as fast as the 991.1 Targa GTS. I could have afforded the 4S but couldn't justify the extra expense for an engine with the same displacement. The Targa is also more of a GT than track car and the base engine suits its character.

Excellent info. Thanks.

Keadog 10-13-2016 10:03 PM


Originally Posted by pfbz (Post 13673776)
No kidding... I hate lane nannies. I much prefer situational awareness and mirrors correctly adjusted!

Winner!

Keadog 10-13-2016 10:07 PM


Originally Posted by trice9 (Post 13673170)
I'm curious, do you have an allocation or is that the next step? When I was trying to order mine (due December), it was very difficult to find an allocation (have 3 local dealers, and tried others as well). My dealer ended up trading with another after looking for a bit, but I was under the impression the allocations are hard to come by. I'm sure its due to a mix of low Targa supply and probably not-too-high Targa demand. So I'm wondering if either of those have changed recently.

As far as the question, I don't have an opinion for you, but I ordered the 4S. That's what I test drove and loved it, and coming from a TT I didn't want to chance being disappointed with less power.

I received email confirmation of an allocation while out hunting this evening for early next year. I bought a TT and an S550 from the same dealer in the last 18 months, so that might have helped me.

Shrevehorn 10-13-2016 10:21 PM

Love the color. Drove a boxster S in that color at the Porsche facility in Birmingham. Really great look, unique without being crazy.

I'm an options whore, would order even more.

Keadog 10-14-2016 06:39 AM


Originally Posted by Shrevehorn (Post 13673834)
Love the color. Drove a boxster S in that color at the Porsche facility in Birmingham. Really great look, unique without being crazy.

I'm an options whore, would order even more.

Going a little more basic on this one, I think. 18 ways, leather, premium package plus and BOSE are must haves, IMO. The rest are "extras". I had the Burmester in my TT and, although it clearly was better sitting, not so noticeable when underway to my ears.

go.illini 10-14-2016 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by Keadog
SC gives rev matching for resale. Have PTV on the Boxster and will probably delete it. Thanks.
PSE: I refuse to pay to sound louder. I often turn it off on my BGTS.

Definitely a stronger argument for SC if getting a manual. I had PDK in mind for my comment.

PSE is a personal choice although a resale argument could be made for it since that is important to you.

Jenner 10-14-2016 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by go.illini (Post 13674543)
Definitely a stronger argument for SC if getting a manual. I had PDK in mind for my comment.

I ordered a manual with SC for the rev match but when I test drove it was a PDK with SC.

The PDK gets the "push to pass" aka sport response feature with SC which is pretty nice to have since it lets you cruise in a quiet/comfortable mode if you wish but dial everything up to 11 with 1 button press. Much faster/easier than turning the knob or pressing buttons on the console and downshifting several gears or waiting for the kick down.


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