Observations after spening 4 hours at dealer
#91
How many miles do you have driving 991s? Oh sorry you did a 30 min test ride in a.2. You MUST be the authority here! Ive owned 3 and have 40k miles between the 3 cars. If you want to pay me for my time, ill elaborate. Some of us have better things to do than spend hours telling strangers how excited they are with what they may or may not buy one day. In my "astute" opinion the .2 was good enough to trade out of a GTS. Im tired of reading the same people rip a car they have never driven for more than 30 min. Somehow they are the experts? Sorry for not agreeing with those astute opinions.
#92
It's simply a matter of personal preference. One might prefer the .1 and another might prefer the .2. I've never driven the .2, I'm sure I'll love it, but I really wanted to experience the NA engine before this chapter in history closes. Would I prefer the .2 as a DD, yes, but that's not why i bought it.
To state the obvious, there is no right or wrong preference between the .1 and the .2.
To state the obvious, there is no right or wrong preference between the .1 and the .2.
#93
If your planing on tracking I would say the .1 is probably the better choice. Turbos tend to heat soak after a couple of laps and the performance drops off dramatically. If your dd than its a non issue.
#94
Secondly, not like this. Don't want to take this any more OT, so will stop here but believe me they're known for being unscrupulous as for years they had zero competition.
#95
First off, not true. I've dealt with many who are stand up people, STG has a lot of them linked into his HFS thread for example.
Secondly, not like this. Don't want to take this any more OT, so will stop here but believe me they're known for being unscrupulous as for years they had zero competition.
Secondly, not like this. Don't want to take this any more OT, so will stop here but believe me they're known for being unscrupulous as for years they had zero competition.
#97
How many miles do you have driving 991s? Oh sorry you did a 30 min test ride in a.2. You MUST be the authority here! Ive owned 3 and have 40k miles between the 3 cars. If you want to pay me for my time, ill elaborate. Some of us have better things to do than spend hours telling strangers how excited they are with what they may or may not buy one day. In my "astute" opinion the .2 was good enough to trade out of a GTS. Im tired of reading the same people rip a car they have never driven for more than 30 min. Somehow they are the experts? Sorry for not agreeing with those astute opinions.
#98
Originally Posted by Archimedes
And therein lines one of the big tradeoffs of the .2 that did not exist on the .1
I've thought all along I would go with S, but after all these reviews I'm seriously thinking of going with the 4 like you. Disclosure: I have yet to test drive any .2, current ride is .1S
#100
How many miles do you have driving 991s? Oh sorry you did a 30 min test ride in a.2. You MUST be the authority here! Ive owned 3 and have 40k miles between the cars. If you want to pay me for my time, ill elaborate. Some of us have better things to do than spend hours telling strangers how excited they are with what they may or may not buy one day. In my "astute" opinion the .2 was good enough to trade out of a GTS. Im tired of reading the same people rip a car they have never driven for more than 30 min. Somehow they are the experts? Sorry for not agreeing with those astute opinions.
Never claimed to be an Authority of any sort, and certainly not on a brand never owned. I'm simply sharing my opinions. Nothing more or nothing less. I'm certainly no expert but I am obsessive and very particular about cars. Since my initial decision to get a 2017 911 a couple months back, I've driven the following 991.2 variants:
-Base 7MT
-C2S 7MT
-C2S PDK
-C4S PDK SPASM
I've also obsessed about it--like, I'm sure, many of you on this forum--reading and watching most everything that I could find on the subject.
I've even sent messages to four automotive journalists seeking their feedback on a decision between base 991.2 and 991 GTS. Two never replied. One said "easy choice, 997 GTS" (Jason Camissa). The other suggested 991 GTS (Guido aka The GetAwayer).
For me, turbo lag was an issue with the 7MT, particularly on the S. If I were buying an automatic this time around I would have gone with a 2017 C4S with little hesitation.
In the end, I made a personal decision and chose the 2016 GTS; 80 percent for its power-plant and 20 percent for its nice hips without having to get a 4.
Last edited by bluehorseshoe; 09-25-2016 at 11:46 PM.
#102
First off, not true. I've dealt with many who are stand up people, STG has a lot of them linked into his HFS thread for example.
Secondly, not like this. Don't want to take this any more OT, so will stop here but believe me they're known for being unscrupulous as for years they had zero competition.
Secondly, not like this. Don't want to take this any more OT, so will stop here but believe me they're known for being unscrupulous as for years they had zero competition.
There is now a Porsche dealership in Chandler, AZ and there is also one in Tuscon now so maybe that has helped along with the increase of internet purchasing - buyers will vote with their feet.
#103
Ellis Brooks never gave me my 5 lbs of coffee either. You are probably too young to get this or not a native of the Bay Area.