Originally Posted by oalvarez

thank you for sharing your thoughts. i have to ask though, why the mention of the comparison/replacement of the GTS.1? i would think that it's obvious that it's not, maybe others don't? there will be a new GTS .2, and then possibly more variants down the road. they're just different, but i still don't understand the reason to mention such. isn't the topic about the base 991.2 test drive? perhaps you also own a GTS.1 and hence why you mentioned it. just curious is all.

as for the SOUND of the base car without PSE AND the C2S with PSE, it basically echos what i mentioned in some other thread about the exhaust noise of the new .2 motor (in my case it was a C4S.2 that i heard). you say it sounded just fine both inside and outside the cabin, but some other person in this forum said he couldn't hear the motor inside the cabin at all (let's please not start with "maybe one car had a problem" or "maybe one tester was hard of hearing" nonsense). i think the car i heard sounded absolutely fine....good even....hec, maybe even great! i'll assume that you don't think it sounded horrible in any way. it's great to "hear" that you were able to gain feedback of the motor from inside. i love it that you thought the exhaust noise wasn't "terrible or horrible." of course, sound is subjective so the hec with all of what i just wrote.

as for the .2 cars having turbo lag/not having turbo lag, it sounds like it wasn't something that you took notice to, or that made the drive unpleasant, or that made driving it any less fun than a NA car. you go as far as speaking to the linear aspect of the power delivery. is there anything you didn't like about how the motor made power? we're talking about the lesser powered base motor, not even the one in the higher spec S model, and you really liked it.

"the car is still a 911." i love that statement and find very little not to like about the new car. again, thanks for sharing your thoughts!

Originally Posted by philg3

Anyone check out the rear camera on the 991.2 -- hoping it's improved from the my 2012 and 2013 Cayennes as the picture / definition was poor. Have a 911 Turbo on order.

Originally Posted by Johnny5Alive

I have the rear camera on my 2016 991.1

Is this different than the 991.2?

It is very sharp. Also has guidelines based on steering input, and interfaces with the parking sensors with a silhouette of the car superimposed showing the surrounding obstacle vicinity.

Originally Posted by DNorby

the two things that bother me about the new .2: 1. A composite oil pan - in my experience plastic always fails. 2. PDK "in between gears" - it has some new gas-saving feature that somehow runs 2 gears at the same time-will this cause more wear on the clutch plates? I have a 2013 S with MT, SPASM, hard-top, PDCC, and the little clock on the dashboard. Given the cost of these cars, I think I will stick with mine for quite some time.

Originally Posted by rkwfxd

They dropped the new engine onto the ground from about 7 feet repeatedly and the plastic oil pan held up fine.

Not really possible to run two gears at the same time so Id like to know more about this.

If I had an older .1 that I had ordered the way I want I would not change either. Mostly like if my current 991 was set up like yours I would keep it too.

Originally Posted by Stil_1

Here's car and driver's except on that:
"The PDK automatic transmission has seven gears, but there are times—for example, when crawling through a city at moderate speed—that none of those gears are just right for best efficiency. This is particularly true in the lower three gears, which are spread further apart. Porsche’s solution is radical: engage two gears at once, partially. Each of the output shafts are coupled to the engine via their own multiplate wet clutch. By engaging both clutches very lightly to allow plenty of slippage, the transmission operates at a ratio that essentially splits the difference between the two gears engaged. Of course, as soon as you step into it, the transmission picks one gear or the other to avoid frying the slipping clutches with lots of power. The Turbo’s PDK already had this function, but it’s a first for the 911 Carrera."

Originally Posted by DNorby

2. PDK "in between gears" - it has some new gas-saving feature that somehow runs 2 gears at the same time-will this cause more wear on the clutch plates?

Originally Posted by Stil_1

Here's car and driver's except on that: "The PDK automatic transmission has seven gears, but there are times—for example, when crawling through a city at moderate speed—that none of those gears are just right for best efficiency. This is particularly true in the lower three gears, which are spread further apart. Porsche’s solution is radical: engage two gears at once, partially. Each of the output shafts are coupled to the engine via their own multiplate wet clutch. By engaging both clutches very lightly to allow plenty of slippage, the transmission operates at a ratio that essentially splits the difference between the two gears engaged. Of course, as soon as you step into it, the transmission picks one gear or the other to avoid frying the slipping clutches with lots of power. The Turbo’s PDK already had this function, but it’s a first for the 911 Carrera."

Originally Posted by DNorby

My point about plastic failing is as it ages it becomes brittle and weakens. GM tried a composite material on some intake manifolds which were not successful.