I guess I just don't see the GTS in the same light. To me it's just an optioned up S. I don't see the wide body adding anything given how wide the S already is. But hey, you know what they save about opinions.

 

Lol @ people comparing .1 GTS to the upcoming .2 GTS. They're not the same, some will value the NA. I know I did. I bought mine when I knew the next one is going turbo. I've owned few turbo cars, don't care for them.

I am not saying it just because I bought a GTS. If new one interested me then I would've just traded my GTS. I've traded cars after 3 months in the past, actually just last year.

I am already looking into my next car and I am heavily leaning towards NA engines. I.e. Huracan, R8 V10 plus.

 

the car is for sale....at my local dealer....i was staring at it yesterday while picking up my check for a canceled wheel/tire insurance policy. why is that so hard for you to believe? unreal, but for this place, maybe par for the course.

 

Well, as I said, it may not do so this time, but in the past that formula is batting a thousand, even without any performance increase.

The market has not shone on stripe-and-badge specials like 40th anniversary 911, Boxster 550SE, etc. but the wide bodies and +30hp models have done well.

 

I guess the accurate litmus test is: did used prices for the last generation of air cooled cars spike shortly after the water cooled cars were brought to market?

 

Nope. Took some time. I was just a young whelp but was looking at 993 C2s in the upper 30s in the early 2000s. Msrp was 55k stripped, with most cars optioned to the 70s and up.

 

Agree with NoGaBiker. You wouldn't believe what I paid in 2007 for my pristine all original 1997 993tt. It was close to 1/2 MSRP. I think it is worth a little more now.

 

Yeah, but a 993TT is a special car for a number of reasons, particularly if it was pristine, low mileage, etc. Bit of a stretch to extend that to what is basically an option package on a 991.

 

Isn't everything an options package? In reality only 3 current models exist. Narrow, wide and extra wide. Talking relative chassis. Everything else is an option.

 

To Archimedes - all I was trying to point out is that even a currently collectible air-cooled 911 depreciated for the first 7-10 years. I think any 993 in reasonably good shape is worth more than its original MSRP, ignoring inflation.

 

Archimedes the great machination quoted: give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world.
Relative to the wide body of the gts and why it's superior to the narrow body.

 

And remember, my comments were not about whether 991.1 will return above-average resale down the line; they were strictly comparing widebody GTS to S or Carrera. The pattern has held with the wildly popular 993 (C2 vs C2S, C4 vs. C4S); the sale-proof 996 (C2, C4 vs C4S) and the 997 (C2, C4 vs GTS). Oh, also the M491 wide-body option vs. Carrera 3.2.

But still, the popularity of the underlying series is far more important than the variant within the series; for instance, widebody 996 C4S is much less popular and valuable than the narrow body 993 C2. So the bigger question remains: will 991.1 in general perform better than, say, 997 or 964? And that is much less clear than the GTS vs. S question.

 

So...A potential buyer for this USED car, that potentially could have been launch controlled about 1400 times in 700 miles, is a 911 traditionalist. This person must have recently come into a chunk of cash and the capability to buy a $130,000 used car. But 3-4 months ago did not have the means to place an order at a discount for a brand new naturally aspirated 911. This person is so diehard he has to have this naturally aspirated engine but at the same time wasn't diehard enough to know that the 911 was going to turbo. The potential buyer is an enigma.

 

This same scenario has been playing out in the 981 world. With an almost more extreme technology change. Flat 6 to turbo 4 banger. Plenty of guys had 981 GTSs and ordered gt4s with the gt4 craze. Several almost brand new GTS 981s were listed on this very website for $70,000 or less. Who knows what they actually went for but most likely less than asking.

So where were all the diehards forking over full msrp for those slightly used naturally aspirated puppies?

I know I know. The 20% hit driving a new car off the lot only happens to Civic, Camry, Cayman, and other lesser vehicles.

 

Meh, I got lucky to find a new one the way I like it just a couple of months ago. Was not in the market for one but once Turbo was confirmed started looking, had I not found what I wanted, would have called this gentleman now and negotiate a reasonable price, car is beautiful and practically new with more than 10k in upgrades not sure why everybody is up in arms about it