Has your' car got worms?
02-24-2016, 05:37 PM
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Has your' car got worms?
One thing I never mentioned about my car was some issues I had with the paint work, or I should say the finish on the paint work.
It was not till a couple of days after collection I spotted it and then some one else mentioned it when looking at the car. The whole of the roof was covered in little lines, long marks in the roof running front to back. The marks did not look like scratches they looked like marks or indentations in the paint.
So I called my OPC and went straight over for them to inspect it. As soon as he saw it he said " don't worry its in the clear coat. Its happens when they put the protection film on a a new car while the clear coat is still not completely dry"
He offered the services of his paint department to polish the marks out, which I turned down. I let my detailer do the paint correction on the car and then charged it back to Porsche, who were happy to pay.
I thought this was just a problem for me but mentioned it to some one who collected their car this week and lo and behold his roof and bonnet where covered in what he called 'worms'. His detailer has removed them for him too.
But these are not the only two cases. http://clubblau.org/forums/topic/clear-coat-problems/.
Some of the descriptions....
"The “bacteria” lines were all over the car, everywhere."
"But this bacteria looking things were really bad"
"like little bacterial worms"
"small almost clear lines. Both circular and wavy"
Not sure if its just a PTS problem, but Porsche do know about it. So check you new pride and joy very carefully for 'worms'
It was not till a couple of days after collection I spotted it and then some one else mentioned it when looking at the car. The whole of the roof was covered in little lines, long marks in the roof running front to back. The marks did not look like scratches they looked like marks or indentations in the paint.
So I called my OPC and went straight over for them to inspect it. As soon as he saw it he said " don't worry its in the clear coat. Its happens when they put the protection film on a a new car while the clear coat is still not completely dry"
He offered the services of his paint department to polish the marks out, which I turned down. I let my detailer do the paint correction on the car and then charged it back to Porsche, who were happy to pay.
I thought this was just a problem for me but mentioned it to some one who collected their car this week and lo and behold his roof and bonnet where covered in what he called 'worms'. His detailer has removed them for him too.
But these are not the only two cases. http://clubblau.org/forums/topic/clear-coat-problems/.
Some of the descriptions....
"The “bacteria” lines were all over the car, everywhere."
"But this bacteria looking things were really bad"
"like little bacterial worms"
"small almost clear lines. Both circular and wavy"
Not sure if its just a PTS problem, but Porsche do know about it. So check you new pride and joy very carefully for 'worms'
02-24-2016, 05:43 PM
#2
Thank you sir. This is a very valuable piece of information for all of us who will soon be taking delivery of a new car. This should be part of everyone's delivery checklist.
Thank you again for sharing your experience.
Thank you again for sharing your experience.
12-20-2016, 02:37 PM
#3
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Worms in Paint
There, in fact, has been a TSB issued by Porsche on this subject. They offer a few remedies. Being a Porsche Approved Collision Center (Factory Certified), we get a few calls to fix this concern.
To clarify, what happens is the white protection wrap will trap moisture on the surface, and it will penetrate the clear. One of the remedies is to put it in a bake booth, and allow the clear to "self heal" itself. If this option works, it sounds a lot better than invasive color sanding and/or what detail shops call "finessing".
Hope this helps others who search the site for this problem on their brand new car.
-Sam Zamir
To clarify, what happens is the white protection wrap will trap moisture on the surface, and it will penetrate the clear. One of the remedies is to put it in a bake booth, and allow the clear to "self heal" itself. If this option works, it sounds a lot better than invasive color sanding and/or what detail shops call "finessing".
Hope this helps others who search the site for this problem on their brand new car.
-Sam Zamir
12-20-2016, 02:46 PM
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A common issue with PTS cars mostly. Why PTS?? Not sure. Many cases noted in the GT3 forum over the past couple years.
What color by the way?? Pics?
Many times the car sitting out in the baking sun helps as well.
They put this wrap on the cars right after painting while the paint is still curing and off gassing for 30+ days after a paint job. Not ideal, but they need to ship the cars and have them protected ASAP.
What color by the way?? Pics?
Many times the car sitting out in the baking sun helps as well.
They put this wrap on the cars right after painting while the paint is still curing and off gassing for 30+ days after a paint job. Not ideal, but they need to ship the cars and have them protected ASAP.
Last edited by STG; 12-20-2016 at 03:14 PM.
12-20-2016, 04:20 PM
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There, in fact, has been a TSB issued by Porsche on this subject. They offer a few remedies. Being a Porsche Approved Collision Center (Factory Certified), we get a few calls to fix this concern.
To clarify, what happens is the white protection wrap will trap moisture on the surface, and it will penetrate the clear. One of the remedies is to put it in a bake booth, and allow the clear to "self heal" itself. If this option works, it sounds a lot better than invasive color sanding and/or what detail shops call "finessing".
Hope this helps others who search the site for this problem on their brand new car.
-Sam Zamir
To clarify, what happens is the white protection wrap will trap moisture on the surface, and it will penetrate the clear. One of the remedies is to put it in a bake booth, and allow the clear to "self heal" itself. If this option works, it sounds a lot better than invasive color sanding and/or what detail shops call "finessing".
Hope this helps others who search the site for this problem on their brand new car.
-Sam Zamir
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12-20-2016, 04:32 PM
#8
Race Director
Originally Posted by fast1
The bake booth is the only remedy that I would find acceptable. I certainly wouldn't want my clear coat sanded down to remove the problem.
It's the heat of the buffing that takes care of the issue. You'd literally have to take off the whole clear coat to remove the worms.
I agree, would rather not touch the paint as a correction does remove a very small amount of clear coat each time.
12-21-2016, 09:51 AM
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12-21-2016, 12:32 PM
#12
I'm not a detailer but I know that the clear coat has several advantages. Here are some that I'm aware of, but I suspect that there are others: adds protective layer to color coat; adds depth and shine to color coat, provides UV protection for base coat, and makes it easier for a body shop to blend paint areas within a single body panel.
12-21-2016, 02:05 PM
#13
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A common issue with PTS cars mostly. Why PTS?? Not sure. Many cases noted in the GT3 forum over the past couple years.
What color by the way?? Pics?
Many times the car sitting out in the baking sun helps as well.
They put this wrap on the cars right after painting while the paint is still curing and off gassing for 30+ days after a paint job. Not ideal, but they need to ship the cars and have them protected ASAP.
What color by the way?? Pics?
Many times the car sitting out in the baking sun helps as well.
They put this wrap on the cars right after painting while the paint is still curing and off gassing for 30+ days after a paint job. Not ideal, but they need to ship the cars and have them protected ASAP.
12-21-2016, 02:56 PM
#14
Race Director
Originally Posted by fast1
I'm not a detailer but I know that the clear coat has several advantages. Here are some that I'm aware of, but I suspect that there are others: adds protective layer to color coat; adds depth and shine to color coat, provides UV protection for base coat, and makes it easier for a body shop to blend paint areas within a single body panel.
I was saying heating up the surface supposedly helps the clear cure a bit and the "worms" tend to lessen or disappear. Either by sun, bake booth, or paint correction. I'd do sun and bake booth first.
12-21-2016, 03:06 PM
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yep thats what the TSB recommends AFIAK