New Escort 360
10-03-2015, 06:07 PM
#31
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I have one of the original Passports I think, its like 15 years old, so I think Ill be getting on board with this. Always wanted a Valentine, but every time i did the research I read something in the car i owned at the time interfered with it or something.
Curious, how will you guys plan to mount this? Just to cigarette jack or hard wired? I dont have my 991 until December, so Im not even sure where the cigarette power jack is, assuming its in center console.
Curious, how will you guys plan to mount this? Just to cigarette jack or hard wired? I dont have my 991 until December, so Im not even sure where the cigarette power jack is, assuming its in center console.
10-03-2015, 06:27 PM
#32
Rennlist Member
The very newest V1s are highly resistant to radar falsing. (I just sent mine back in for refurbishing a few months ago.) However, I do get a ridiculous amount of laser falsing, even with no other cars around. Not sure what's up with that. Has this been anyone else's experience as well?
10-27-2015, 12:42 PM
#33
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Longtime V1 user here (mine is probably 10 years old at this point at least, version 1.7). Received the Escort Max 360 on Friday.
General impressions:
The good:
Locking out known falses via GPS is a great thing to have.
Display can show you the kind and frequency of the radar.
Does not chatter constantly about nearby cars with onboard collision, cruise, etc. ... this made my V1 almost useless but in fairness, I don't have the latest version.
Controlling the detector via the bluetooth app on the phone is a nice feature.
The not so great:
Crazy expensive.
Firmware and database not upgradeable on a Mac because their application is only up-to-date on a PC. That's unacceptable, especially since they have a "made for iPhone" label on the damn box.
Big heavy detector, with clunky sticky mount that is really difficult to move from car to car ... in fact the mount broke into 3 pieces after just three days and was a PITA to put back together.
Cord is way too short and, unlike the V1, the lighter plug and cable are integrated, so you can't swap out different phone cable. Escort cable is half straight and half coiled and really clunky in both cars I'm using it in -- Ferrari and an Audi. With just a straight cable you can usually artfully run the cable around the dash, etc., but no way to do this with the supplied cable from Escort. Looks bad.
Not as sensitive as even my old V1 ... the V1 picks up K band in a couple of specific spots that the 360 does not.
Sound (voice) is really low-fi.
The arrows on the V1 are immediately readable and responsive ... the arrows on the 360 are tiny little LED triangles that are tough to see and there is a lag of a couple of seconds after the alert before they even light to tell you where it is. Also, they are slow to respond, as the front arrow remains lit for several seconds even after you pass the radar source.
Still falses on certain new cars ... Acuras, for sure, had that happen to me.
So, while it inspires a certain confidence that once it's used to your area, if it speaks up it's probably for a good reason, there is a certain wonkiness and clumsiness to it that makes it feel like they rushed it out as soon as they could get the arrows on it. They hinted that it would be better than the current Max 2 but the word is it's basically the same with a larger case and slow-responding arrows.
Might send it back and try the latest version of the V1, not sure yet.
General impressions:
The good:
Locking out known falses via GPS is a great thing to have.
Display can show you the kind and frequency of the radar.
Does not chatter constantly about nearby cars with onboard collision, cruise, etc. ... this made my V1 almost useless but in fairness, I don't have the latest version.
Controlling the detector via the bluetooth app on the phone is a nice feature.
The not so great:
Crazy expensive.
Firmware and database not upgradeable on a Mac because their application is only up-to-date on a PC. That's unacceptable, especially since they have a "made for iPhone" label on the damn box.
Big heavy detector, with clunky sticky mount that is really difficult to move from car to car ... in fact the mount broke into 3 pieces after just three days and was a PITA to put back together.
Cord is way too short and, unlike the V1, the lighter plug and cable are integrated, so you can't swap out different phone cable. Escort cable is half straight and half coiled and really clunky in both cars I'm using it in -- Ferrari and an Audi. With just a straight cable you can usually artfully run the cable around the dash, etc., but no way to do this with the supplied cable from Escort. Looks bad.
Not as sensitive as even my old V1 ... the V1 picks up K band in a couple of specific spots that the 360 does not.
Sound (voice) is really low-fi.
The arrows on the V1 are immediately readable and responsive ... the arrows on the 360 are tiny little LED triangles that are tough to see and there is a lag of a couple of seconds after the alert before they even light to tell you where it is. Also, they are slow to respond, as the front arrow remains lit for several seconds even after you pass the radar source.
Still falses on certain new cars ... Acuras, for sure, had that happen to me.
So, while it inspires a certain confidence that once it's used to your area, if it speaks up it's probably for a good reason, there is a certain wonkiness and clumsiness to it that makes it feel like they rushed it out as soon as they could get the arrows on it. They hinted that it would be better than the current Max 2 but the word is it's basically the same with a larger case and slow-responding arrows.
Might send it back and try the latest version of the V1, not sure yet.
10-27-2015, 02:10 PM
#34
Nordschleife Master
Thanks for the review vjd, good information! Only reinforces my decision to keep my 9500ix and not upgrade.
10-27-2015, 02:32 PM
#36
Race Car
Thanks for the review. Sounds like I will just keep the Max2 until they shake out the 360 a little more.
10-27-2015, 02:34 PM
#37
Burning Brakes
Couldn't agree more but don't tell all the V1 homers, they will get mad. I have had both, multiple V1's, 9500ix and now Max2. I would only get rid of my Max2 if the 360 had better technology. If it is just the arrows and options, I am good. I have been so impressed with the Max2 it is by far the best so far. I to do not need arrows, they are stupid. I slow down no matter what.
I just received my new V1 and believe it to be a great value at $399! Arrows or no arrows, it is a lot of bang for the buck.
10-27-2015, 11:16 PM
#38
Rennlist Member
I have had an Escort Redline for 3 years. It does have fabulous range, but I have not been able to configure it to eliminate all of the K-Band false alerts from the new adaptive cruise controls/lane changing radars. The comments on this thread indicate that if you have the most recent update on the V1 it does have the ability to at least substantially reduce the K-Band false alerts. Does the new Max360 have this ability at all? Personally, the GPS capability of eliminating stationary false alerts is not very important. I guess it depends on the situation where you usually drive.
BTW, a NYS trooper beat my Redline last month on a gorgeous heavily-forested two-lane in the Adirondacks at night. He just kept his radar off until he saw my headlights. No ticket and a very decent fellow. He and I were about the only two cars on the road.
Here in MA, during the morning commute at least, it usually works to stay with, but not lead, the traffic in the far left lane. Sometimes even all four lanes are doing over 80. Given the percentage of people using their devices for God knows what, and focused on everything but the road and what's happening ahead, I would feel a lot safer in an Abrams tank.
BTW, a NYS trooper beat my Redline last month on a gorgeous heavily-forested two-lane in the Adirondacks at night. He just kept his radar off until he saw my headlights. No ticket and a very decent fellow. He and I were about the only two cars on the road.
Here in MA, during the morning commute at least, it usually works to stay with, but not lead, the traffic in the far left lane. Sometimes even all four lanes are doing over 80. Given the percentage of people using their devices for God knows what, and focused on everything but the road and what's happening ahead, I would feel a lot safer in an Abrams tank.
10-28-2015, 07:51 PM
#39
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
Longtime V1 user here (mine is probably 10 years old at this point at least, version 1.7). Received the Escort Max 360 on Friday.
General impressions:
The good:
Locking out known falses via GPS is a great thing to have.
Display can show you the kind and frequency of the radar.
Does not chatter constantly about nearby cars with onboard collision, cruise, etc. ... this made my V1 almost useless but in fairness, I don't have the latest version.
Controlling the detector via the bluetooth app on the phone is a nice feature.
The not so great:
Crazy expensive.
Firmware and database not upgradeable on a Mac because their application is only up-to-date on a PC. That's unacceptable, especially since they have a "made for iPhone" label on the damn box.
Big heavy detector, with clunky sticky mount that is really difficult to move from car to car ... in fact the mount broke into 3 pieces after just three days and was a PITA to put back together.
Cord is way too short and, unlike the V1, the lighter plug and cable are integrated, so you can't swap out different phone cable. Escort cable is half straight and half coiled and really clunky in both cars I'm using it in -- Ferrari and an Audi. With just a straight cable you can usually artfully run the cable around the dash, etc., but no way to do this with the supplied cable from Escort. Looks bad.
Not as sensitive as even my old V1 ... the V1 picks up K band in a couple of specific spots that the 360 does not.
Sound (voice) is really low-fi.
The arrows on the V1 are immediately readable and responsive ... the arrows on the 360 are tiny little LED triangles that are tough to see and there is a lag of a couple of seconds after the alert before they even light to tell you where it is. Also, they are slow to respond, as the front arrow remains lit for several seconds even after you pass the radar source.
Still falses on certain new cars ... Acuras, for sure, had that happen to me.
So, while it inspires a certain confidence that once it's used to your area, if it speaks up it's probably for a good reason, there is a certain wonkiness and clumsiness to it that makes it feel like they rushed it out as soon as they could get the arrows on it. They hinted that it would be better than the current Max 2 but the word is it's basically the same with a larger case and slow-responding arrows.
Might send it back and try the latest version of the V1, not sure yet.
General impressions:
The good:
Locking out known falses via GPS is a great thing to have.
Display can show you the kind and frequency of the radar.
Does not chatter constantly about nearby cars with onboard collision, cruise, etc. ... this made my V1 almost useless but in fairness, I don't have the latest version.
Controlling the detector via the bluetooth app on the phone is a nice feature.
The not so great:
Crazy expensive.
Firmware and database not upgradeable on a Mac because their application is only up-to-date on a PC. That's unacceptable, especially since they have a "made for iPhone" label on the damn box.
Big heavy detector, with clunky sticky mount that is really difficult to move from car to car ... in fact the mount broke into 3 pieces after just three days and was a PITA to put back together.
Cord is way too short and, unlike the V1, the lighter plug and cable are integrated, so you can't swap out different phone cable. Escort cable is half straight and half coiled and really clunky in both cars I'm using it in -- Ferrari and an Audi. With just a straight cable you can usually artfully run the cable around the dash, etc., but no way to do this with the supplied cable from Escort. Looks bad.
Not as sensitive as even my old V1 ... the V1 picks up K band in a couple of specific spots that the 360 does not.
Sound (voice) is really low-fi.
The arrows on the V1 are immediately readable and responsive ... the arrows on the 360 are tiny little LED triangles that are tough to see and there is a lag of a couple of seconds after the alert before they even light to tell you where it is. Also, they are slow to respond, as the front arrow remains lit for several seconds even after you pass the radar source.
Still falses on certain new cars ... Acuras, for sure, had that happen to me.
So, while it inspires a certain confidence that once it's used to your area, if it speaks up it's probably for a good reason, there is a certain wonkiness and clumsiness to it that makes it feel like they rushed it out as soon as they could get the arrows on it. They hinted that it would be better than the current Max 2 but the word is it's basically the same with a larger case and slow-responding arrows.
Might send it back and try the latest version of the V1, not sure yet.
Well, maybe I will be updating my V1 after all...
10-28-2015, 08:54 PM
#40
I have a V1 and K40 RL360.
I purchased the 360 because of the damn red-light and especially the speed cams in Chicago. Used it for a road trip to Cedar Point ... besides the camera defenses that the others can't do, I have to admit that the Escort live feature is potentially the most liberating feature if you want to really haul ***. Having a network of know radar signals posted on a live map almost feels like cheating and helped me avoid a squad sitting in the median on the turnpike with instant on radar. I was alerted to his prescense five 5 miles earlier and could see his reported location on my smartphone Google map. For the type of speed that most of the posters cars can do on this forum this is an extra level of information that old detectors can't match.
The more of us that use it the fewer tickets we will get.
Cool stuff.
I purchased the 360 because of the damn red-light and especially the speed cams in Chicago. Used it for a road trip to Cedar Point ... besides the camera defenses that the others can't do, I have to admit that the Escort live feature is potentially the most liberating feature if you want to really haul ***. Having a network of know radar signals posted on a live map almost feels like cheating and helped me avoid a squad sitting in the median on the turnpike with instant on radar. I was alerted to his prescense five 5 miles earlier and could see his reported location on my smartphone Google map. For the type of speed that most of the posters cars can do on this forum this is an extra level of information that old detectors can't match.
The more of us that use it the fewer tickets we will get.
Cool stuff.