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I have a 2010 997.2 C2S and have been running Hawk Ceramic pads for a year. Break dust was reduced by about 70%, which is much easier to live with. I am not sure if Hawk makes ceramic pads for the 991.
I don't have them on this car yet, but I do on my cayenne and had them on my bmw, but I like Centric posi quiet pads. Hawk ceramics are also great, as mentioned above.
For my C2S, the only lower dusting pads I was able to find were the Centric Posi-Quiets. I put plenty of the red anti-squeal goop on them, and have had no problems with them at all.
I have a 2010 997.2 C2S and have been running Hawk Ceramic pads for a year. Break dust was reduced by about 70%, which is much easier to live with. I am not sure if Hawk makes ceramic pads for the 991.
I have Hawks on my Q7 and, while they do significantly reduce brake dust, they don't offer the same stopping power as the OEM pads, particularly when cold. The first two stops, they're just plain awful.
I have Hawks on my Q7 and, while they do significantly reduce brake dust, they don't offer the same stopping power as the OEM pads, particularly when cold. The first two stops, they're just plain awful.
I would think there has to be a trade off somewhere? Or else, why wouldn't the OEM ones be made with less brake dust?
Believe me, I hate brake dust. Don't want squeaky or underperforming pads either.
I would think there has to be a trade off somewhere? Or else, why wouldn't the OEM ones be made with less brake dust?
Well, I've done other low dust pads over the years on my BMWs that didn't result in reduced performance. And the difference between the Hawks and the OEM pads, at least on my Q7, is very significant. When they're cold, they literally barely stop the vehicle. Takes 2 stops to get any real braking power and then I'd say they're, at best, about 80% of OEM stopping power. The only reason I did them is because the brake dust on the Q7 is insane, way worse than a 911, and the initial braking feel of the Q7 OEM pads suck, way too much initial bite. That said, I'm almost certain I'm going back to stock pads when these wear out. I'm getting tired of backing out of the driveway and having to mash the brake pedal like I didn't have power assist just to get the thing to stop.
I don't notice a performance decrease with the posi quiet semi metallics. they still have a great initial bite and feel the same to me, but that is on the Cayenne. I don't think if I put them on the 911 that I would take them to the track or anything.
OP, have you tried Armor All tire protectant to knock down your brake dust? I'm currently testing that on my cars to see how well it works. I've had others tell me it does a great job keeping brake dust off the wheels.
OP, have you tried Armor All tire protectant to knock down your brake dust? I'm currently testing that on my cars to see how well it works. I've had others tell me it does a great job keeping brake dust off the wheels.
Not "tire protectant" but their Wheel Guard or Wheel Protect or something like that. I use it on my wheels and it does a great job but the dust seems to collect in clumps near the spokes....It does keep them cleaner and really easy to clean off...most dust come off with hose nozzel spray. That being said, you do need to re-apply fairly often (it's not the cheapest product) and of course you must make sure that wheels, barrels and calipers are clean before use of you just seal in the dirt.....If you over apply a coat it will run onto your tires and when it dries it leaves a white residue that is kind of hard to clean off...thin even coats is the ticket....
IMO, if u have steel brakes and don't like the looks of brake dust, the first thing u should change is the finish on ur wheels. Mine are a satin darker platinum and no brake dust shows, even in a thousand miles. Pick a darker color and satin finish, and ur brake dust problem is solved. Done. Around Orlando, the price starts around $100/wheel, for a good quality, tire-off job, assuming the rims are not bent or scraped.
There is no reason to change pads, unless urs are worn more than 50%. 50% should be when u change them, unless u always drive like a little old lady and never heat up ur brakes. It's brake rotor heat that destroys caliper pistons, seals and fluid. The only thermal insulation between ur red hot rotors and protecting ur caliper pistons and seals and fluid are the pads themselves. So just make sure u keep thick brake pads on ur Porsche (unless u want to drive like a little old lady).
So paint ur wheels if dust is ugly, and change ur pads if worn 50% or more. What r u waiting for?
Because I used Endless on other cars and they do have 991 fittmemts...
Just understand Endless costs around 2X as much as OEM pads but they are known for long wear and great performance.
SS-M is their lowest dust pad.
Dust levels are extremely low and pads last a long time.
However, they did not stop as well as CTS-V OEM pads.
Nothing scary just less stopping force.
MX-72 is their higest performamce "streetable" pad.
They dusted noticabely less, than AMG OEM pads, but they did squeel a tiny bit at the end of a stoppimg event.
Squeel was only barely noticeable with windows down.
Should be slightly better performance and longer wear, than Porsche OEM, with about a 30% reduction in dust.
I plan to get MX-72, on my 991, when the OEM pads wear out.
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