Parnelli

Anyone know where to find the annual unit sales numbers in the U.S. - including a breakdown for each type of 991?

Sharm

I think I saw these numbers recently, possibly on the Porsche website in their newswire section. It did break it down by vehicle, though I think only by model and not trim (i.e., 911, cayenne, etc.).

Sharm

Here you go: http://press.porsche.com/news/release.php?id=896

Parnelli

Thanks Sharm

That's actually pretty impressive that Porsche USA "only" sold a bit more than 10K 911's in all of 2014. I would've guessed that to be higher.

"There were 10,433 deliveries of 911 sports cars, which include the new Targa, Carrera GTS, and GT3 models"

I wonder why these don't hold their values better given the small-ish sales numbers?

The 993 models sold 68K cars or an average of 17K annually in 4 years (that is world wide, though). And those values hold rock steady

I realize it is not an 'apples to apples' comparison. But it is not an 'apples to bowling ball' comparison either. (Sorry, couldn't think of anything more non-fruit)

Key Left

They loose value more (991) because there are 22 different variants offered in 2.5 years. Each new one basically making the last seemingly obsolete. That said, yes the total 991's produced is less than 993's etc. this will very long term work in the 991's resale favor. Hang on and enjoy this car's amazing looks and performance. It's definitely a long term investment not a flip mobile.

Key Left

P.S. Also remember a new 991 is a six figure proposition, keeping initial purchase limited to only those who can afford it. That will hold total sales numbers down, as well.

Tcc1999

Not that this applies to anyone here, but I am sure that there are plenty of people driving 991s that really can't "afford" them. (That would be deferring 401K contributions, purchasing houses, etc. in favor of buying a Porsche - not that that's any of my business if anyone goes that route, as long as I don't end up supporting them if they end up destitute their old age). PFS makes leasing pretty attractive and auto loans go as high as 72 or 80 months now so it isn't too difficult to find a "reasonable" monthly price point. I read an article not too long ago that predatory financing, much like existed in the housing market up to 2008, is still in place in the auto financing industry.

Parnelli

Are the sales number of C2's and C4's about evenly split ??

ggreg911

According to Porsche, average 991 buyer is almost 50 and has household income of 400k. Id bet they own a house and have money in their 401k.

jdjones2010

Lol, i have 2 of my buddies that this applies to (it's like they're trying to one up the other) BOTH of them Lease & BOTH of them could use a Lil' more furniture in their houses IF you know what i mean! though, Neither of them are at 400k!

Key Left

Average 911 buyer is 59. And yes the six figure selling point is a new barrier which depresses total numbers but boosts Porsche profit. Sort of like $9.99 versus 10.00, at $10.00 most folks pass.

ggreg911

59? Makes me feel great... In almost 20 years ahead of the game.

chows4us

US sales for any car, most recent years can be found here http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/p/sales-stats.html

One is the last generation of air cooled 911s, the other is just the current generation. How about golden apples to green apples?

Parnelli

That s a great link! I wish it would break down C2 vs C4 sales

fast1

I bet the $400K is the median and not average family income. Also, I would expect most 911 owners own at least two homes.