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Old 10-15-2014, 12:14 AM
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Default After market Stereo mod- advice needed

I am considering replacing the Base stereo with an after market stereo system made up of:
Dynaudio esotec 242 tweeters.
Audison bit one processor.
Audison Quattro amplifier

I have heard it and it is absolutely fantastic.
Thanks Money for your recommendation...

I am about to pull the trigger, however before I do that, I would like to hear from 991 owners who have gone through this mod, with any audio brand, and hear if it worked well, any issues with the warranty? How difficult it is to install etc....I just fear it may screw up the electrical system of the car or create other issues...etc...
Do it or not?

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Wow, very interested in this thread. I know a lot of people on here would say don't tinker with the factory install but I say go for it. If done right you should have zero issues, and it will sound AMAZING.
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Thank you. I hope more people chime in with input. The Base stereo is sooo bad that the mod is required in my opinion

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I personally would not do it. Four reasons....

Fear of future electrical gremlins
Panels and carpet not getting put back together right
Acoustically, cars are not designed for music listening
And most importantly, you already have the best entertainment system.... the exhaust

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Old 10-15-2014, 08:36 AM
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If you know a good installer who has worked on Porsches, I say go for it. If you like to listen to music, one of the most annoying things is listening to a bad system. There is nothing better than listening to good tunes on good system on a long drive.
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When you say "base" do you mean the non-Bose option?

Personally I think it's a risk and wouldn't do it. I also wouldn't buy a used car with a modded audio system. Not that you should drive your car for the next owner, but just my two cents.
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Yes I mean the non Bose system. Why would you not buy a car with a stereo system that has been upgraded and sounds much better? I think it would be a bonus.
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My .02 cents and I'm a huge proponent of upgrading the system in a car. It can be done for far less money than a Burmy and get similar or better results.

Listen to Porsche-Nuts though.

If you just can't stand the base system find a pro installer that has many many years experience in the car audio industry. Even better, find one that can show you examples of systems he had installed in 997's & 991's. I know that list will be small but at the very end of the day, it's not rocket science. You just need someone familiar with our cars.

Otherwise I have two words for you:

Nick Murray.


Cheers and good luck.
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I just don't trust cars that have been tinkered with. I like my cars clean and factory, even if the audio on after market parts would be way better.

I know you're not changing out your head-unit, but I've seen some 996 and 997s that had their head-units replaced with Pioneer and other brands and it just looks tacky. I walked away from a 997 TTS once because the sound system was totally upgraded. It sounded 100% better than factory but the look was terrible and there was no original parts.

Just my opinion though. I get many would think I'm crazy and respect that others wouldn't agree.
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I installed a top-of-the-line Pioneer unit in my 2008 Porsche Boxster S and removed the stock head, and added two more speakers in the rear of the car. It was a LOT of work to do a clean install. Where the major difficulty was is that the Amp is in the boot of the car, up front. While you can get to it easily enough, its extremely difficult to run new wires into the cabin of the car - Porsche builds that firewall tighter and more sealed than any car I have ever seen, and I've done a lot of stereo and concealed radar detector installs. There are no access holes in the firewall, only two main electrical wires going into the cabin and they have silver-dollar sized hard-rubber grommets that I think could withstand a shot from a pistol. You cannot move them and you can't push them around. I spent one whole day looking for access from the front trunk into the cabin and couldn't find a point. Eventually I used a series of drill bits and made a hole on one side of one grommet, being very careful to not nick the wire harness and it was hard to do.

The factory amp is not that bad, nor the speakers. It's the head unit that was terrible. I was able to achieve my goal of markedly improved sound just by swapping out the head unit and adding the two rear speakers. Just swapping out the head unit isn't that hard, as long as you have a wiring harness to be compatible with the Porsche harness. However, on the 991's the head unit is integrated into the car system itself, so its more than a radio. The wiring harnesses are all CanBus as well, so its not a simple fuses setup any more. That makes all add on wiring more challenging, both to get an active circuit and avoid a CanBus fault.

That was my experience on an older Porsche. Not sure it helps you with a 991, but there ya go. This was my install, and you can also see a Escort 9500ci in a panel I made in there as well. I am very fastidious and the stereo and radar unit install together took about 60 hours to do including all the custom fabricating. Then I sold the car!

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Wow, that is impressive. I have yet to see any aftermarket install look that clean.
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Originally Posted by Caprzeland
I am considering replacing the Base stereo with an after market stereo system made up of:
Dynaudio esotec 242 twitters
Audison bit one processor.
Audison Quattro amplifier

I have heard it and it is absolutely fantastic.
Thanks Money for your recommendation...

I am about to pull the trigger, however before I do that, I would like to hear from 991 owners who have gone through this mod, with any audio brand, and hear if it worked well, any issues with the warranty? How difficult it is to install etc....I just fear it may screw up the electrical system of the car or create other issrues...etc...
Do it or not?
Who are going to get to do the install? I think that is the key to this. Curious as I'm thinking of doing it myself with my base system...thanks!
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Originally Posted by Naushaud
Wow, very interested in this thread. I know a lot of people on here would say don't tinker with the factory install but I say go for it. If done right you should have zero issues, and it will sound AMAZING.
aha ...
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Originally Posted by k997
I just don't trust cars that have been tinkered with. I like my cars clean and factory, even if the audio on after market parts would be way better.

I know you're not changing out your head-unit, but I've seen some 996 and 997s that had their head-units replaced with Pioneer and other brands and it just looks tacky. I walked away from a 997 TTS once because the sound system was totally upgraded. It sounded 100% better than factory but the look was terrible and there was no original parts.

Just my opinion though. I get many would think I'm crazy and respect that others wouldn't agree.
+1
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Originally Posted by drcollie
I installed a top-of-the-line Pioneer unit in my 2008 Porsche Boxster S and removed the stock head, and added two more speakers in the rear of the car. It was a LOT of work to do a clean install. Where the major difficulty was is that the Amp is in the boot of the car, up front. While you can get to it easily enough, its extremely difficult to run new wires into the cabin of the car - Porsche builds that firewall tighter and more sealed than any car I have ever seen, and I've done a lot of stereo and concealed radar detector installs. There are no access holes in the firewall, only two main electrical wires going into the cabin and they have silver-dollar sized hard-rubber grommets that I think could withstand a shot from a pistol. You cannot move them and you can't push them around. I spent one whole day looking for access from the front trunk into the cabin and couldn't find a point. Eventually I used a series of drill bits and made a hole on one side of one grommet, being very careful to not nick the wire harness and it was hard to do.

The factory amp is not that bad, nor the speakers. It's the head unit that was terrible. I was able to achieve my goal of markedly improved sound just by swapping out the head unit and adding the two rear speakers. Just swapping out the head unit isn't that hard, as long as you have a wiring harness to be compatible with the Porsche harness. However, on the 991's the head unit is integrated into the car system itself, so its more than a radio. The wiring harnesses are all CanBus as well, so its not a simple fuses setup any more. That makes all add on wiring more challenging, both to get an active circuit and avoid a CanBus fault.

That was my experience on an older Porsche. Not sure it helps you with a 991, but there ya go. This was my install, and you can also see a Escort 9500ci in a panel I made in there as well. I am very fastidious and the stereo and radar unit install together took about 60 hours to do including all the custom fabricating. Then I sold the car!

Awesome install, thanks for sharing,...anyone else with the stereo mod? I am still pondering the risk vs the benefit...


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