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Old Sep 29, 2014 | 04:04 PM
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In my endless search for a 911 I've found a car that has most of what I'm looking for, only it's a new 2013. Is that a problem?

There is a significant discount in the purchase price...just wondering if I should be worried about anything specific in a car has stuck around this long unsold?
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Old Sep 29, 2014 | 04:07 PM
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You will still have a few years of the four year warranty left even if it was already "punched" for any glitches to show up. Stale inventory can be an exceptional buy.
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Old Sep 29, 2014 | 06:27 PM
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I bought a new 2012 leftover about a year ago, and it was well worth the flight to CT and 900 mile drive back to Chicagoland. BTW, they had "punched" the warrantee, since they get a spliff from PCNA to do so, but sold it with CPO so it had a little over 5 years left of warrantee.

The 991s changed so little between 2012 and 2013 and 2014 that I wouldn't worry too much about the year, unless you are going to sell it very soon.
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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 02:08 AM
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The 991s changed so little between 2012 and 2013 and 2014 that I wouldn't worry too much about the year, unless you are going to sell it very soon.[/QUOTE]


The key point. If this baby has what you want then drive the price down and grab it.
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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 08:04 AM
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Get them to add CPO Warranty as part of the deal, then go for it.
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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 12:04 PM
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Thanks for the answers, I think I'm going to go for it.

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Get them to add CPO Warranty as part of the deal, then go for it.
They offered to do this, but claim it would add a few thousand to the price. I think that's BS, so I'm going to ask them to include it in the deal at no cost.
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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 02:02 PM
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While not strictly "BS", I think it's reasonable to ask it be thrown in when it's a new "punched" floor model.

They probably do have to pay porsche for the added coverage, but a bulk of the cost comes from replacing things to their CPO standards. Like very good condition paint, certifying no wrecks, tires, brakes and all wear parts at least 70% life remaining (I think), etc. Plus a full DME (or whatever they call it) report to screen out high G track rats and over revs, etc.

But a punched floor model won't have any of those issues, guaranteed, and all the wear parts will be 95%+ life remaining, guaranteed. Whatever the "cost" to CPO it, it's got to be way cheaper and way easier than some box of chocolates lease return.
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While not strictly "BS", I think it's reasonable to ask it be thrown in when it's a new "punched" floor model.

They probably do have to pay porsche for the added coverage, but a bulk of the cost comes from replacing things to their CPO standards. Like very good condition paint, certifying no wrecks, tires, brakes and all wear parts at least 70% life remaining (I think), etc. Plus a full DME (or whatever they call it) report to screen out high G track rats and over revs, etc.

But a punched floor model won't have any of those issues, guaranteed, and all the wear parts will be 95%+ life remaining, guaranteed. Whatever the "cost" to CPO it, it's got to be way cheaper and way easier than some box of chocolates lease return.
its not free, the base CPO cost a 991 is like 2300 or 2600 to porsche just for the warranty.
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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 02:54 PM
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its not free, the base CPO cost a 991 is like 2300 or 2600 to porsche just for the warranty.
Very useful to know, thank you, I will take that into consideration.
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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 05:13 PM
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Yes there is a cost, but for an old punched floor model that's not moving, the dealer and porsche want it gone ASAP. Trunk money, incentive, whatever you want to call it, I bet the true net cost to CPO it is much lower at the bottom of the ledger for THEM than a mystery lease return with 20,000 "drive it like you're renting it" miles going for a CPO.
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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by hjles
In my endless search for a 911 I've found a car that has most of what I'm looking for, only it's a new 2013. Is that a problem?

There is a significant discount in the purchase price...just wondering if I should be worried about anything specific in a car has stuck around this long unsold?
I wouldn't worry about it! As long as it's new and untitled.
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Old Oct 1, 2014 | 04:54 PM
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If the car was punched by the dealer then the warranty began on that date. I don't know if a dealer can CPO a car that has not been previously titled - either it is new or it is preowned. They do extend the warranty for a year if the car has been in demo service for a period of time but that would not apply to a new car. 2014s are now leftovers and as we get to the winter months the dealers are going to want to move them before the end of the calendar year so there are going to be some really good deals in the next few months as they punch them sold. With respect to a 2013 as the years go on 991s will be more affected by mileage than model year so if you plan on keeping the car you will be doing ok in a few years. So to answer your question I wouldn't worry about why the car has been around so long unless you have suspicions that it might have been in an accident or in a flood but Porsche would really do a number of them if that is the case and they didn't disclose it. I would expect a discount of at least 25% off MSRP to make it worthwhile.
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Old Oct 1, 2014 | 05:53 PM
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If it has been siting on a lot for that long, I would examine the paint very carefully for acid rain pits and other blemishes. Try and look at it under lights.
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Old Oct 1, 2014 | 07:06 PM
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ask them how many miles on it, below 200 or so miles is reasonable, more than that is a deal breaker for me because you have to assume these were all test drive miles and the car could have been abused
ask for an oil change as the car has been sitting for a while
drive the car make sure on vibrations , potential flat spots on tires , which is rare but can happen
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Old Oct 5, 2014 | 11:03 AM
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If it has been siting on a lot for that long, I would examine the paint very carefully for acid rain pits and other blemishes. Try and look at it under lights.
I purchased a leftover at Hennesy a few years ago. Got to the dealer late and didn't get the chance to look at the car under good lighting. Washed the car the day after I got home with the car and what a surprise. The entire top surface of the car was pitted. It could not be buffed out. Sold it 3 months later.
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