Custom Ordering a Porsche
Burning Brakes
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]It's been my experience watching dealers as well as ordering a low optioned 981S that they absolutely fly off the lots. Thousands and thousands for 99cent moving maps and thousands and thousands for deadweight lumbar spam and on and on. As for dealer profits go, I'm not sure what's better, a low optioned car that flips in weeks or a ridiculously over specced car show wanna be that rots on the lot for over a year, has to be "punched" and CPO'd and still sits for a long time. Either way there's not nearly enough lower specced 911's around.
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If what you are looking for a an agate gray C4S+PDK with few/no other options I would adopt a different approach, I doubt a dealer will custom order such a low spec, or at least they will be disinclined to do so, since they do not make as much profit from it, and if you back out, they are stuck with a low option car to sell.
I would instead, contact the internet sales guys at a few target dealers, tell them what your 'must haves' are, C4S, Agate Gray, PDK, and see if they can find a matching car. In all likelyhood, there will be some inventory somewhere that matches, you know what your 'base' spec MSRP is, so (if the dealer is willing to obtain the car for you) you have the opportunity to negotiate down from the actual MSRP of the car they have found (which in all likelyhood will have more options than you want and is thus more expensive) they will also
likely negotiate if this is a 2013/14 car so you have a window of opportunity
here with the new model year forthcoming.
I would instead, contact the internet sales guys at a few target dealers, tell them what your 'must haves' are, C4S, Agate Gray, PDK, and see if they can find a matching car. In all likelyhood, there will be some inventory somewhere that matches, you know what your 'base' spec MSRP is, so (if the dealer is willing to obtain the car for you) you have the opportunity to negotiate down from the actual MSRP of the car they have found (which in all likelyhood will have more options than you want and is thus more expensive) they will also
likely negotiate if this is a 2013/14 car so you have a window of opportunity
here with the new model year forthcoming.
I am also looking at low milage CPO cars now. CPO cars with less than 5K miles and 100K mile warranty apparently can be had for $25-40K lower than original MSRP. Going after such cars is very tempting and even prudent it seems to me, since the gigantic depreciation hit has occured.
The downside offcourse is that such a car is not custom and would probably not be exactly like I would have ordered. But in most cases they have more stuff than I would order on my custom build so - you get some extra stuff but might give up on an ideal custom build color/look etc.
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]It's been my experience watching dealers as well as ordering a low optioned 981S that they absolutely fly off the lots. Thousands and thousands for 99cent moving maps and thousands and thousands for deadweight lumbar spam and on and on. As for dealer profits go, I'm not sure what's better, a low optioned car that flips in weeks or a ridiculously over specced car show wanna be that rots on the lot for over a year, has to be "punched" and CPO'd and still sits for a long time. Either way there's not nearly enough lower specced 911's around.
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Thats solid advice. Thank you !
I am also looking at low milage CPO cars now. CPO cars with less than 5K miles and 100K mile warranty apparently can be had for $25-40K lower than original MSRP. Going after such cars is very tempting and even prudent it seems to me, since the gigantic depreciation hit has occured.
The downside offcourse is that such a car is not custom and would probably not be exactly like I would have ordered. But in most cases they have more stuff than I would order on my custom build so - you get some extra stuff but might give up on an ideal custom build color/look etc.
I am also looking at low milage CPO cars now. CPO cars with less than 5K miles and 100K mile warranty apparently can be had for $25-40K lower than original MSRP. Going after such cars is very tempting and even prudent it seems to me, since the gigantic depreciation hit has occured.
The downside offcourse is that such a car is not custom and would probably not be exactly like I would have ordered. But in most cases they have more stuff than I would order on my custom build so - you get some extra stuff but might give up on an ideal custom build color/look etc.
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Thats solid advice. Thank you !
I am also looking at low milage CPO cars now. CPO cars with less than 5K miles and 100K mile warranty apparently can be had for $25-40K lower than original MSRP. Going after such cars is very tempting and even prudent it seems to me, since the gigantic depreciation hit has occured.
The downside offcourse is that such a car is not custom and would probably not be exactly like I would have ordered. But in most cases they have more stuff than I would order on my custom build so - you get some extra stuff but might give up on an ideal custom build color/look etc.
I am also looking at low milage CPO cars now. CPO cars with less than 5K miles and 100K mile warranty apparently can be had for $25-40K lower than original MSRP. Going after such cars is very tempting and even prudent it seems to me, since the gigantic depreciation hit has occured.
The downside offcourse is that such a car is not custom and would probably not be exactly like I would have ordered. But in most cases they have more stuff than I would order on my custom build so - you get some extra stuff but might give up on an ideal custom build color/look etc.
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Here's your car sitting on the lot in New England at Herb Chambers.
http://www.herbchambersporscheofbost...f0edb6d4f6.htm
I found them to be very easy to deal with over the phone and was going to buy a 911 from them, but the specific one I was targeting was sold 2 days before I called to pull the trigger. They move units up there and I'd call them up and try them on for size at 8% off MSRP. Call the Sales Manager direct and bypass the sales droid, have your credit card ready.
http://www.herbchambersporscheofbost...f0edb6d4f6.htm
I found them to be very easy to deal with over the phone and was going to buy a 911 from them, but the specific one I was targeting was sold 2 days before I called to pull the trigger. They move units up there and I'd call them up and try them on for size at 8% off MSRP. Call the Sales Manager direct and bypass the sales droid, have your credit card ready.
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Here's your car sitting on the lot in New England at Herb Chambers.
http://www.herbchambersporscheofbost...f0edb6d4f6.htm
I found them to be very easy to deal with over the phone and was going to buy a 911 from them, but the specific one I was targeting was sold 2 days before I called to pull the trigger. They move units up there and I'd call them up and try them on for size at 8% off MSRP. Call the Sales Manager direct and bypass the sales droid, have your credit card ready.
http://www.herbchambersporscheofbost...f0edb6d4f6.htm
I found them to be very easy to deal with over the phone and was going to buy a 911 from them, but the specific one I was targeting was sold 2 days before I called to pull the trigger. They move units up there and I'd call them up and try them on for size at 8% off MSRP. Call the Sales Manager direct and bypass the sales droid, have your credit card ready.
Its the right color but I would order it with Carrerra Classic Wheels and Side Window Trim in Aluminum. I think those 2 options together look very attactive on most colors.
But I will definitely give them a call.
Thanks again.
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It can also mean getting a new C2 vs a loaded out-the-wazoo C4S cab for almost the same $$$$.
So what is a guy supposed to do...
Good luck with your decison.
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There are two seperate paths.
First is ordering a build off the configurator.
Very simple, build it, figure out what you want for a discount and then match with a Dealer. There are probably as many different ways this has been accompilshed as there are cars sold.
Second is PTS. Once you select PTS, many options in the Configurator are not available as you are now ordering a truly 'custom' Porsche and these options each need to be authorized by Porsche Germany.
This is the province of the 'Exclusive Shop' and you should then refer to the excellent Threads on this Forum concerning PTS.-Richard
First is ordering a build off the configurator.
Very simple, build it, figure out what you want for a discount and then match with a Dealer. There are probably as many different ways this has been accompilshed as there are cars sold.
Second is PTS. Once you select PTS, many options in the Configurator are not available as you are now ordering a truly 'custom' Porsche and these options each need to be authorized by Porsche Germany.
This is the province of the 'Exclusive Shop' and you should then refer to the excellent Threads on this Forum concerning PTS.-Richard
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There are two seperate paths.
First is ordering a build off the configurator.
Very simple, build it, figure out what you want for a discount and then match with a Dealer. There are probably as many different ways this has been accompilshed as there are cars sold.
Second is PTS. Once you select PTS, many options in the Configurator are not available as you are now ordering a truly 'custom' Porsche and these options each need to be authorized by Porsche Germany.
This is the province of the 'Exclusive Shop' and you should then refer to the excellent Threads on this Forum concerning PTS.-Richard
First is ordering a build off the configurator.
Very simple, build it, figure out what you want for a discount and then match with a Dealer. There are probably as many different ways this has been accompilshed as there are cars sold.
Second is PTS. Once you select PTS, many options in the Configurator are not available as you are now ordering a truly 'custom' Porsche and these options each need to be authorized by Porsche Germany.
This is the province of the 'Exclusive Shop' and you should then refer to the excellent Threads on this Forum concerning PTS.-Richard
I have been told my order for CXX "center console trim painted exterior color" will be approved when the car is finally built the end of the year. I was told part of the reason all the PTS builds were pushed from September/October to November/December was that there have been so many requests for CXX options. True? Who knows? Only Porsche knows and they haven't called me.
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That was in an email from Melissa a few weeks ago. She told me my September build would be pushed to November/December before the dealer knew (oops).