Stevie 911

OK so I've been looking to buy my first Porsche but just can't seem to find a 991 c2s or 4s with manual transmission & performance options. So this morning I'm on cars.com and find a 2013 c4s agate gray with all the perf. Options and maybe a few too many non perf. Options. So I contact the dealer by e mail and later in the day I receive a phone call from said dealer's used car manager who states the car has approx. 200 miles on the odometer from test drives but was never registered by anyone. This car is well optioned to my liking with a window sticker price of $141,500.00. Car is listed for sale at $127,777.00. The sales rep states he had the car for about 1 full year. Rep states 2 years was added to the warranty by Porsche. I've yet to see the car but am not sure if this is a good deal or not.

jfeger

I'm very new to this space, as I have only owned my first Porsche for less than a week. However, without details in which performance items you want, this feels like a high price. I'm comparing it to sticker price of a 2014 C2S with PDK. I'm sure others in here will have much better guidance than I can provide though.

jfeger

I just re-read your post, and see it's a non-titled c4, so maybe it's not that bad. However, if a C2S is an option for you, you can get a nicely equipped '14 for less I think. Again, I'm a newbie.....

DPC

I'm a newbie on this site and to Porsche but have bought my share of cars. This doesn't seem like much of a deal at all….not quite 10% discount on a year old car that has depreciated 10-15% at least from that alone and we are at the end of MY14 as well. You'd be doing them a favor. Reading the rennlist boards, some claim 7-9% off MSRP for current model year. If it were my money, I'd order exactly what you want and pass on this. I'll be interested in what others have to say.

hinckley

I just ordered a $135k MSRP MY15 C2S at 7% off. So 10% off a two year old car does not seem like a great deal to me.

LexVan

Not a bad start on price. Make them an offer, and negotiate. You have walking power.

When was the 4-year factory warranty started? A year ago? Get an understanding on that. Sounds like they CPO'd the car for an extra 2 years. So maybe, 4 years factory warranty minus 1 year because they stamped the book already, plus 2 extra years, is only one extra year of warranty. Nice, but not mind blowing.

A good negotiation can buy this car very smartly. Good luck. Do it!

Stevie 911

This car has the following options:


My2013 carrera 4S. $105,630
agate grey metallic $710
Blk leather int. 3,690
Online services. 210
Sport design steering wheel. 250
Elec. folding ext. mirrors. 320
Glass sunroof. 1,990
Sport chrono pkg. 1,850
Park assist frt & rr. 990
Porsche dynamic lighting system. 0.00
Sport exhaust. 2,950
PDCC w/ PASM sport suspension. 4,050
Prem pkg plus w/18 way seats. 2,330
Bose audio. 2,420
Adaptive sport seats plus 18 way. 3,465
Headlamp cleaner ext color. 295
Center console trim carbon. 630
Instrument dials in white. 860
Wheels painted platinum. 950
Sport design pkg. 4,990
Carbon pkg. 1,990
Ornamental porsche crest. 0.00

Total price = $141,520.00

Selling price. $127,777.00

This car is about as close to perfect without doing a build & waiting, the only problem is it is a my 2013 which soon will be 2 model years old. I was told Porsche recently added 2 more years CPO warranty.
It will depreciate approx. $30 - 40,000 once I drive it off the dealers lot.
I'll go checkout the car & if I'm blown away I'll make a lower offer.

duxsi

Should be somewhere between $115-$120k given that the 2015's start arriving in 60-90 days..

MKW

I would start at $110 and walk away at over 113...almost 2 model year old car at this point and if you are not in need of AWD or don't care one way or another of the wider look and as you say there are options on it you would not have ordered, that's another $10k you will eat no matter what the final price is

rule of thumb if you get a new car every 2-3 yrs and are not leasing is to aim for 7% off new model year in Sept or 15-17% off on end of model year dealer lot left overs when factory " trunk money" kicks in when cold weather arrives Nov -Jan...but the longer you wait, the more likely the remaining ones are over optioned $85K Boxster S and $140K C2S coupes