Real world experience with Carerra S Powerkit?
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I've been thinking about the power-kit lately and kinda kick myself for not including it with my order to begin with. You can get the kit for $11k, but I'm thinking installing it is quite involved. Did anyone do this yet?
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I am also considering it. The dealer quoted me close to 20 k to do it. They were charging more then 11k for the parts but I think they would come down quite a bit. They said it would take 2 weeks to do. I also read here somewhere that some other poster ordered one and it took several months to get the kit.
I would prefer to order the parts from Suncoast but the dealer said that would effect the warranty. I wonder if this another thing they would negotiate. If they are OEM parts I don't know why they would care.
I would prefer to order the parts from Suncoast but the dealer said that would effect the warranty. I wonder if this another thing they would negotiate. If they are OEM parts I don't know why they would care.
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I am also considering it. The dealer quoted me close to 20 k to do it. They were charging more then 11k for the parts but I think they would come down quite a bit. They said it would take 2 weeks to do. I also read here somewhere that some other poster ordered one and it took several months to get the kit.
I would prefer to order the parts from Suncoast but the dealer said that would effect the warranty. I wonder if this another thing they would negotiate. If they are OEM parts I don't know why they would care.
I would prefer to order the parts from Suncoast but the dealer said that would effect the warranty. I wonder if this another thing they would negotiate. If they are OEM parts I don't know why they would care.
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Thanks, I think everything they told me was excessive. I think for 14 k I would do it and when I am ready we will see how much they will come down. What I really want is a used 991 turbo cab for a good price. I wonder how many years that will take.
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Honestly, the 991S has enough power. Think about this, in some circuits the base 911 is faster than the S. And I am sure that any driver that has had some school training will lap faster in a base 991 the a driver without training on an S.
My 2c, the power package is for bragging only! You will never use that extra power on the street, and on the track there are many other variables that can make you improve your time and enjoyment for much less money.
BTW mine is a S with PDCC, an option that will help you getting the track faster and costs much less, plus helps you with tire wear.
I would think that a better use of the $$$ would be using it on tires, brake pads, rotors, instructor and track time.
My 2c, the power package is for bragging only! You will never use that extra power on the street, and on the track there are many other variables that can make you improve your time and enjoyment for much less money.
BTW mine is a S with PDCC, an option that will help you getting the track faster and costs much less, plus helps you with tire wear.
I would think that a better use of the $$$ would be using it on tires, brake pads, rotors, instructor and track time.
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Honestly, the 991S has enough power. Think about this, in some circuits the base 911 is faster than the S. And I am sure that any driver that has had some school training will lap faster in a base 991 the a driver without training on an S.
My 2c, the power package is for bragging only! You will never use that extra power on the street, and on the track there are many other variables that can make you improve your time and enjoyment for much less money.
Use the 20k for tires, brake pads, rotors, instructor and track time
My 2c, the power package is for bragging only! You will never use that extra power on the street, and on the track there are many other variables that can make you improve your time and enjoyment for much less money.
Use the 20k for tires, brake pads, rotors, instructor and track time
Now, bang for the buck-wise, its not a tremendous value, I agree. But then again, Porsches aren't a bang for the buck car. The thing about the X51 though, its factory proven hardware, not internet marketed bolt-ons...
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Honestly, the 991S has enough power. Think about this, in some circuits the base 911 is faster than the S. And I am sure that any driver that has had some school training will lap faster in a base 991 the a driver without training on an S.
My 2c, the power package is for bragging only! You will never use that extra power on the street, and on the track there are many other variables that can make you improve your time and enjoyment for much less money.
Use the 20k for tires, brake pads, rotors, instructor and track time
My 2c, the power package is for bragging only! You will never use that extra power on the street, and on the track there are many other variables that can make you improve your time and enjoyment for much less money.
Use the 20k for tires, brake pads, rotors, instructor and track time
I think overall you have a valid point but enough power for whom and who is spending 20 k on this kit. I would also say part of your argument says we should all buy Miatas because really it is the driver that is important. I would also think that as a Porsche owner you would know that it does not have to be an X-51 kit or track wheels, lessons etc.
On what track is a base faster then an S. Same driver, same suspension and 50 pounds versus 50 hp, really??
I am on the fence because what I really want is a 500 plus HP turbocharged car and the X-51 kit is not going to get me there.
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I think overall you have a valid point but enough power for whom and who is spending 20 k on this kit. I would also say part of your argument says we should all buy Miata's because really it is the driver that is important. I would also think that as a Porsche owner you would know that it does not have to be an X-51 kit or track wheels, lessons etc.
On what track is a base faster then a S. Same driver, same suspension and 50 pounds versus 50 hp, really??
I am on the fence because what I really want is a 500 plus HP turbocharged car and the X-51 kit is not going to get me there.
On what track is a base faster then a S. Same driver, same suspension and 50 pounds versus 50 hp, really??
I am on the fence because what I really want is a 500 plus HP turbocharged car and the X-51 kit is not going to get me there.
I recently drove a 997.2 Turbo S on a track and was underwhelmed. It was very fast, sure, but engine sound was VERY poor and the AWD is a liability in hard cornering (IMO) compare to a proper handling RWD car.
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If I didn't live at altitude, then I'd go with the power kit. Ordered it on my 997 C4S and it was wicked BUT altitude demands boost.
At or near sea level the power kit would be perfect.
At or near sea level the power kit would be perfect.
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Same here. I hear so many people pick on the turbos for various reasons. I live at 6,700 feet and my favorite road is quite a bit higher. I can feel the car loose power.
I was really torn between a 997 turbo and the 991 C2S. As I said someday I hope to have the 991 turbo but think the power kit might help in the mean time but yes that is a whole lot of money for 30HP.
General Jack I have driven quite a few turbos and would not trade my 991 for a 997 turbo. I also think the 997 turbos sound is lacking. I completely disagree about the 4 wheel drive comment. While obviously I have not driven a 991 turbo I have driven a 991 C4S at the track and think it handles as well or better then a C2S in the corners. I assume the 991 turbo would be even better with the new steering. Thing is if 16 or so k is to much for extra power then the price of a 991 turbo anytime in the next few years is more then I am willing to spend. Maybe 400 hp is enough and 430 is enough plus a bonus. Real hard to say with out driving one or more fist hand experience from someone.
I was really torn between a 997 turbo and the 991 C2S. As I said someday I hope to have the 991 turbo but think the power kit might help in the mean time but yes that is a whole lot of money for 30HP.
General Jack I have driven quite a few turbos and would not trade my 991 for a 997 turbo. I also think the 997 turbos sound is lacking. I completely disagree about the 4 wheel drive comment. While obviously I have not driven a 991 turbo I have driven a 991 C4S at the track and think it handles as well or better then a C2S in the corners. I assume the 991 turbo would be even better with the new steering. Thing is if 16 or so k is to much for extra power then the price of a 991 turbo anytime in the next few years is more then I am willing to spend. Maybe 400 hp is enough and 430 is enough plus a bonus. Real hard to say with out driving one or more fist hand experience from someone.
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And I live like 10 feet above sea level so I guess I made a good choice..
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I have thought about this as an option along with just putting a turbo or super charger in my car when the warranty is up. My problem is I think those claims from all the exhaust companies are bull "****e" and the ones form Porsche underrated like everything else they post. I am sure you get some HP and I bet in a year or so a X-51 kit some exhaust upgrade and a flash could get you close to 450.