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Old 03-12-2013, 07:46 AM
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Default 991 OEM tires-P-zero's or Michelin Pilot SS...

I was told that you cannot specify the tires on an ordered CS. The factory will put either P-zero's on or Michelin Pilot SS. Lately, it seems all the newly delievered CS cars are coming with the P-zeros. I noticed in the latest tire test results reported in one of the automotive mags, the P zeros were the least desirable while the Michelin PSS were the best. I realized that Porsche has probably made a better deal with Pirelli than they could at Michelin...therefore we all get the P-zeros. I wish they would spend the extra diime in the name of better performance and put the better tire on our new $100K+ cars.
Old 03-12-2013, 08:24 AM
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+1000...I have been saying the same thing for years....unfort, only option is to drive the heck out of the car and burn through the first set as fast as possible!
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Ha, I also asked if I could specify the Michelins... No go. I may not wait very long to get the PSSs.
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Based on loving them in the past I will get MSS when my P0s are gone. That said- they are wearing well (12K miles- no track) and are damn good in all conditions- way better than I expected.

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Originally Posted by chuckbdc
Based on loving them in the past I will get MSS when my P0s are gone. That said- they are wearing well (12 miles- no track) and are damn good in all conditions- way better than I expected.
I heard when you hit 100 miles the P-zeros are done.
Old 03-12-2013, 11:54 AM
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I think Porsche made some special deal with Pirelli for their product only on the 991 as OEM. And no, for the past many years no matter what you want you get what Porsche wants for you as far as tires are concerned. One of the very few things you can't specify according to 3 different factory tour guides last year.
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Originally Posted by John 996 TT Cab
I think Porsche made some special deal with Pirelli for their product only on the 991 as OEM. And no, for the past many years no matter what you want you get what Porsche wants for you as far as tires are concerned. One of the very few things you can't specify according to 3 different factory tour guides last year.
This is correct. Pirelli has an exclusive with Porsche as the OEM supplier on the Carrera. That being said, the PZero are actually pretty good. I put 14 track days on them, and they've held up well. They've got at least another 3-4 days left on them. As long as you run them with high psi, they perform quite well. The PSS are definitely better, but the PZero aren't too far off.

The PSS are really on another level when you consider wet, or colder conditions. I was really impressed with the PSS, they are quieter, have way more grip and I find them easy to manage in terms of tire temperature.
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Originally Posted by shizzle
This is correct. Pirelli has an exclusive with Porsche as the OEM supplier on the Carrera.
I think Goodyear tires are standard on the non S Carrera with 19" wheels.
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True...never said the PIrelli's were bad....just that the Michelin PSS' are soooo much better for the reasons referenced above. I have them on my current 2011 M3 (to be replaced in April with a Panny GTS), and man, rain, wet or shine, these things have grip like no ones business!
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Originally Posted by LonnieR
I heard when you hit 100 miles the P-zeros are done.
Ya got me - edited now.
Old 03-12-2013, 08:16 PM
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i also asked my dealer if they would consider swapping out the oem pzeros for pss prior to taking delivery...wishful thinking, their parts dept said no go.
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Originally Posted by chuckbdc
Ya got me - edited now.
Just busting chops...sorry
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Originally Posted by GSIRM3
I think Goodyear tires are standard on the non S Carrera with 19" wheels.
Yeah. I know on the 981 20's get the Pzero's, 19's Goodyears, dunno on the 18's.
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I burned up the PZeros with a bunch of track days (3,800 miles) and will order the PSS soon. Hoping to do some skid pad stuff first with the rubber that is left.
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Does Michelin make N rated PSS tires to fit the 991s?


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