How much HP is enough?
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How much HP is enough?
As technology moves forward many automobile manufacturers are adding more and more horsepower to their engines while simultaneously improving fuel efficiency. At some point that will have to stop. Just curious what people think that point will be? Obviously the Porsche turbo will be the new standard but will the next base see 500 or more?
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IMO. 700 hp is enough.
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If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough horsepower.... quoted from Mark Donohue.....
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honestly feel for 100k, the base should have 400, S @ 500, and Turbo @ 600...
same way cayenne is 300/400/500...
350 HP comes stock in a 30k car now...
same way cayenne is 300/400/500...
350 HP comes stock in a 30k car now...
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#8
By today's super car standards , 600 hp is about right. But this is a moving goal post that will keep going higher. Agree that 400 hp is a bit underpowered for a serious sports car today. Having said that the 991S in sport + is an absolute beast, but 500 hp would be more appropriate for such a car, while turbo should be more.
#12
"Agree that 400 hp is a bit underpowered for a serious sports car today". Are you kidding me? I'd say the Carrera S is "serious sports car" even with its measly hp. Anything under 4 seconds to 60 is SERIOUS.
Talk about horsepower as much as you want, but traction is the limitation. Even with AWD, anything to 60mph in less than about 2.5 seconds is nearly impossible. At some point Newton's Laws intervene. Rolling acceleration is something else altogether, but then we'll need tracks or runways to achieve more performance, much as we do now.
Watch Chris Harris try to get a 997 GT2RS up on its tires and go. Even the ultimate 192hp Ducati has issues with that.
Talk about horsepower as much as you want, but traction is the limitation. Even with AWD, anything to 60mph in less than about 2.5 seconds is nearly impossible. At some point Newton's Laws intervene. Rolling acceleration is something else altogether, but then we'll need tracks or runways to achieve more performance, much as we do now.
Watch Chris Harris try to get a 997 GT2RS up on its tires and go. Even the ultimate 192hp Ducati has issues with that.
#14
i have somewhat changed my mine regarding this subject and i repeat somewhat. ever since i starting to track a 996 that i bought strictly for that i am aware that the fastest car on track is not necessarily the guy leading the pack. i have gone against 997 turbos on twisties and they can not keep up. on the other hand yes my 991 has 400 and it feels quite fast, but an extra 100 would not offend me at all.
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