lightweight 911
04-01-2012, 12:52 PM
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lightweight 911
I just read the article about the new lightweight. Should be awesome. Amazing to see Porsche could return to air-cooled engines after 15 years away. Apparently the high cylinder head temperatures improve emissions and reduce the need for complex (heavy) systems. I can only hope the rumored manual steering rack is part of the final car. Great to see the retro "long nose" body design and lightweight 18 inch wheels with push-rod front suspension. And priced below the 911. Wow.
04-01-2012, 12:58 PM
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I just read the article about the new lightweight. Should be awesome. Amazing to see Porsche could return to air-cooled engines after 15 years away. Apparently the high cylinder head temperatures improve emissions and reduce the need for complex (heavy) systems. I can only hope the rumored manual steering rack is part of the final car. Great to see the retro "long nose" body design and lightweight 18 inch wheels with push-rod front suspension. And priced below the 911. Wow.
04-07-2012, 04:00 PM
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I was contemplating all the new passengers in the 991 yesterday evening (from underneath.)
* PDCC pump and actuators on the sways and the dampers
* PASM stuff on the dampers
* electric motor to drag on the parking brake
* stamped steel braces and brackets
* huge calipers and thicker rotors
* a separate, powerful electric motor for the power steering, for the AC compressor
* bulky, complex exhaust and brackets
* enormous motorized headlights
* complex door pockets
* cabin gadgets
* giant, elaborate center console
* oh so comfy seats
* navigation system and display
* PDK shifter and console
* rear seats are now large and bulky looking things that used to be flimsy little plywood panels
* rear decklid and motorized wing
Just comparing the 991 to the 997, the size and expanse of the dash is getting a bit silly, too. There's a lot of horizontal space in the cabin now -- the real parcel shelf is cavernous (this car will be great as a Targa with a rear hatch to access all that space.)
The obvious bulk of a starter motor designed to start the car thousands of times per week and the battery and DC cables to make that happen. If ever there was a car screaming out for a hitorque lightweight starter, it's this 991.
I have to think the 991 would be flipping light if one had the nerve to pull all that crap out and strip it down for the track. Lightweight calipers from someone like StopTech paired with Movit carbon rotors and some forged 19 inch track wheels would surely be huge for unsprung and flywheel mass.
Pull the PDCC and engine mounts and PASM. semi-solid mounts and bushings, conventional coil-overs.
Replace the headlights taillights with blanks, pull out the LEDs (they're notoriously heavy in the tail lights.)
997 GT2 seats (there's about 100 lbs ...)
Get a pro shop to fabricate an alloy replacement for all the steel underneath.
Replace the whole decklid, hinges, wing, motors with a single piece fixed wing.
It would be interesting if the power steering is accessible through the software without other mods.
I wonder if it might be possible to have the motor for the AC compressor separated from the compressor housing (to keep the refrigerant lines intact, otherwise, high pressure couplings could work.)
Get a power tweak from the tuners, maybe that 3.8 is worth another 15 horses with a simplified exhaust and conventional map rework -- maybe there's a lesson to learn from the 997.2 GTS to know how to get at least to the level of the "power kit" output.
Hopefully they get rid of some of the stamped metal underneath when they build the first GT3 or RS. I'm not too curious about the 7spd manual, so I'm going to live with the weight of PDK ... maybe they'll make it lighter for the RS? A "stripper" Carrera S could be quite fun.
* PDCC pump and actuators on the sways and the dampers
* PASM stuff on the dampers
* electric motor to drag on the parking brake
* stamped steel braces and brackets
* huge calipers and thicker rotors
* a separate, powerful electric motor for the power steering, for the AC compressor
* bulky, complex exhaust and brackets
* enormous motorized headlights
* complex door pockets
* cabin gadgets
* giant, elaborate center console
* oh so comfy seats
* navigation system and display
* PDK shifter and console
* rear seats are now large and bulky looking things that used to be flimsy little plywood panels
* rear decklid and motorized wing
Just comparing the 991 to the 997, the size and expanse of the dash is getting a bit silly, too. There's a lot of horizontal space in the cabin now -- the real parcel shelf is cavernous (this car will be great as a Targa with a rear hatch to access all that space.)
The obvious bulk of a starter motor designed to start the car thousands of times per week and the battery and DC cables to make that happen. If ever there was a car screaming out for a hitorque lightweight starter, it's this 991.
I have to think the 991 would be flipping light if one had the nerve to pull all that crap out and strip it down for the track. Lightweight calipers from someone like StopTech paired with Movit carbon rotors and some forged 19 inch track wheels would surely be huge for unsprung and flywheel mass.
Pull the PDCC and engine mounts and PASM. semi-solid mounts and bushings, conventional coil-overs.
Replace the headlights taillights with blanks, pull out the LEDs (they're notoriously heavy in the tail lights.)
997 GT2 seats (there's about 100 lbs ...)
Get a pro shop to fabricate an alloy replacement for all the steel underneath.
Replace the whole decklid, hinges, wing, motors with a single piece fixed wing.
It would be interesting if the power steering is accessible through the software without other mods.
I wonder if it might be possible to have the motor for the AC compressor separated from the compressor housing (to keep the refrigerant lines intact, otherwise, high pressure couplings could work.)
Get a power tweak from the tuners, maybe that 3.8 is worth another 15 horses with a simplified exhaust and conventional map rework -- maybe there's a lesson to learn from the 997.2 GTS to know how to get at least to the level of the "power kit" output.
Hopefully they get rid of some of the stamped metal underneath when they build the first GT3 or RS. I'm not too curious about the 7spd manual, so I'm going to live with the weight of PDK ... maybe they'll make it lighter for the RS? A "stripper" Carrera S could be quite fun.
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04-07-2012, 06:03 PM
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I was contemplating all the new passengers in the 991 yesterday evening (from underneath.)
* PDCC pump and actuators on the sways and the dampers
* PASM stuff on the dampers
* electric motor to drag on the parking brake
* stamped steel braces and brackets
* huge calipers and thicker rotors
* a separate, powerful electric motor for the power steering, for the AC compressor
* bulky, complex exhaust and brackets
* enormous motorized headlights
* complex door pockets
* cabin gadgets
* giant, elaborate center console
* oh so comfy seats
* navigation system and display
* PDK shifter and console
* rear seats are now large and bulky looking things that used to be flimsy little plywood panels
* rear decklid and motorized wing
Just comparing the 991 to the 997, the size and expanse of the dash is getting a bit silly, too. There's a lot of horizontal space in the cabin now -- the real parcel shelf is cavernous (this car will be great as a Targa with a rear hatch to access all that space.)
The obvious bulk of a starter motor designed to start the car thousands of times per week and the battery and DC cables to make that happen. If ever there was a car screaming out for a hitorque lightweight starter, it's this 991.
I have to think the 991 would be flipping light if one had the nerve to pull all that crap out and strip it down for the track. Lightweight calipers from someone like StopTech paired with Movit carbon rotors and some forged 19 inch track wheels would surely be huge for unsprung and flywheel mass.
Pull the PDCC and engine mounts and PASM. semi-solid mounts and bushings, conventional coil-overs.
Replace the headlights taillights with blanks, pull out the LEDs (they're notoriously heavy in the tail lights.)
997 GT2 seats (there's about 100 lbs ...)
Get a pro shop to fabricate an alloy replacement for all the steel underneath.
Replace the whole decklid, hinges, wing, motors with a single piece fixed wing.
It would be interesting if the power steering is accessible through the software without other mods.
I wonder if it might be possible to have the motor for the AC compressor separated from the compressor housing (to keep the refrigerant lines intact, otherwise, high pressure couplings could work.)
Get a power tweak from the tuners, maybe that 3.8 is worth another 15 horses with a simplified exhaust and conventional map rework -- maybe there's a lesson to learn from the 997.2 GTS to know how to get at least to the level of the "power kit" output.
Hopefully they get rid of some of the stamped metal underneath when they build the first GT3 or RS. I'm not too curious about the 7spd manual, so I'm going to live with the weight of PDK ... maybe they'll make it lighter for the RS? A "stripper" Carrera S could be quite fun.
* PDCC pump and actuators on the sways and the dampers
* PASM stuff on the dampers
* electric motor to drag on the parking brake
* stamped steel braces and brackets
* huge calipers and thicker rotors
* a separate, powerful electric motor for the power steering, for the AC compressor
* bulky, complex exhaust and brackets
* enormous motorized headlights
* complex door pockets
* cabin gadgets
* giant, elaborate center console
* oh so comfy seats
* navigation system and display
* PDK shifter and console
* rear seats are now large and bulky looking things that used to be flimsy little plywood panels
* rear decklid and motorized wing
Just comparing the 991 to the 997, the size and expanse of the dash is getting a bit silly, too. There's a lot of horizontal space in the cabin now -- the real parcel shelf is cavernous (this car will be great as a Targa with a rear hatch to access all that space.)
The obvious bulk of a starter motor designed to start the car thousands of times per week and the battery and DC cables to make that happen. If ever there was a car screaming out for a hitorque lightweight starter, it's this 991.
I have to think the 991 would be flipping light if one had the nerve to pull all that crap out and strip it down for the track. Lightweight calipers from someone like StopTech paired with Movit carbon rotors and some forged 19 inch track wheels would surely be huge for unsprung and flywheel mass.
Pull the PDCC and engine mounts and PASM. semi-solid mounts and bushings, conventional coil-overs.
Replace the headlights taillights with blanks, pull out the LEDs (they're notoriously heavy in the tail lights.)
997 GT2 seats (there's about 100 lbs ...)
Get a pro shop to fabricate an alloy replacement for all the steel underneath.
Replace the whole decklid, hinges, wing, motors with a single piece fixed wing.
It would be interesting if the power steering is accessible through the software without other mods.
I wonder if it might be possible to have the motor for the AC compressor separated from the compressor housing (to keep the refrigerant lines intact, otherwise, high pressure couplings could work.)
Get a power tweak from the tuners, maybe that 3.8 is worth another 15 horses with a simplified exhaust and conventional map rework -- maybe there's a lesson to learn from the 997.2 GTS to know how to get at least to the level of the "power kit" output.
Hopefully they get rid of some of the stamped metal underneath when they build the first GT3 or RS. I'm not too curious about the 7spd manual, so I'm going to live with the weight of PDK ... maybe they'll make it lighter for the RS? A "stripper" Carrera S could be quite fun.
